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The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« on: March 14, 2025, 09:19:57 »
I am not a member of MAG. But I might be by the end of today.
In my motorcycling lifetime since 1966 no government has done anything to encourage the use of motorcycles. In fact the opposite is true.
I think MAG should change it's name to something friendly rather than have a name that sounds like an anti-social militant protest group from the  1960s. I can quite understand why a government would not want to have anything to do with them.
However their latest video reveals that an unelected group has meetings with the government and claims to speak for us.

Take a few minutes to watch and listen as these creatures from the Motorcycle Industry Association pander and grovel to a government minister and look at what they propose for the future. And also see how they scoff at the opinions of someone who actually rides a motorcycle.


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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2025, 11:10:32 »
Like FFMC Brockett? (Fedération Française des Motards en Colère or angry French bikers......  :icon_batterup: )

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So how's it going so far then?

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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2025, 11:17:53 »
So they want to replace PTWV's with 4 wheeled vans ?

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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2025, 15:31:52 »
That patronising MCIA bloke (did I see him on The Apprentice?) effectively summed me up as an out of date, thick person, who doesn’t know bugger all about motorcycling (about right 😉).🤔

I thought motorcycles had two wheels, with trikes (near enough to a motorcycle anyway) having three wheels. Any more wheels means it’s not a motorcycle or trike…… 🤷‍♂️

The last time I went into a motorcycle dealership I don’t recall seeing anything with four wheels. If I want a car I’ll go to a car dealership….. or am I being thick again?🤔

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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2025, 16:19:19 »
I had best not write what I think of that MCI C*** because I don't want to banned from our forum. I think you understand.  ###
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2025, 16:29:51 »
I share everyone's horror. ....... a rubbish way to cap off what for me has been a rubbish week.
Beer I think!!
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2025, 16:47:27 »
I already two beers in.👍

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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2025, 16:48:27 »
What a plonker. Rhymes with 'James Blunt'...
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2025, 18:27:01 »
MAG, you say!
I'm not sure I'd want to be in any club that'd have me for a member......although I am a bit concerned about this "dress" nonsense.
I'm not sure I want to be a trans-motorcyclist. Where would I put me knee pads?
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2025, 07:02:01 »
I agree with your description of MAG Brockett.

I had a 'healthy discussion' recently with someone recently about membership.

They still actively campaign for the removal of the compulsory helmet law, justifiable maybe back in the early days of the organisation, but not now.

As for the MCIA: I have attended hundreds of presentations over my professional life, and given probably the same number. That bloke is saying what he has been told to say. He knows it's going to be unpopular as he is stumbling, hesitating and finishing sentences looking down at his notes... plus there is no enthusiasm for what he is saying.

What the actual f the MCIA are on about in his presentation is anyone's guess, but as I am over 50..... by a fair stretch, my opinion clearly does not count.
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2025, 10:02:35 »
Is motorcycling becoming ageists? It used to be sexist many years ago, when a lady appeared in a motorcycle add she wouldn't be a rider, just a sexy model sitting on a bike, that's changed now thank God. There is a lean towards smaller motorcycles from most manufactures, maybe that goes against tall or large riders.

I think we should protest! I'll meet you on the traffic sign over the M1 just coming out of the big city next Thursday. We may need some of those four wheel mobility things to carry our placards though.

For those of you who don't remember those awful sexist adverts of the past, here are a few just to make your blood boil.  :thumb:

https://flashbak.com/groovy-chicks-selling-motorbikes-1960s-sexy-swingin-scooter-motorcycle-adverts-373817/
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2025, 10:54:54 »
As I see it the "issue" here is not that the Motorcycle Industry Association mostly represent importers and retailers, but that they do not represent riders and yet they are the only organisation that the Government consults.   From the MIA point of view HMG is determined to see the end of  ICEs. That can only mean the future is battery powered city bikes. The MIAs future as a trade body can continue only if they have some influence with HMG.  E-Bike riders will still need weather and accident protective clothing, and of course, the bikes.  So there will still be a trade. If the MIA is to survive it must portray itself as the link between the trade and HMG. As far as the trade is concerned danger, in the form of legislation, comes from HMG and so they need a body that can represent their interests to HMG. The MIA has to balance the pressures from its members and from HMG. Hence the need to cozy up to HMG with the sort of tripe we see in the video. IIRC ( I may be wrong) HMG has decreed the end of new motorcycle registrations ( new motorcycle sales) from 2030 and not the five year extension to 2035 granted for cars. Imagine here an emoji  waving an "end of the world is nigh" sign. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers ... ( Henry V before Agincourt) may well be the last to stare at images of our next motorcycle wondering "how fast",  but instead wondering "how far" before the next charge.  I see MAG as a King Canute figure demanding the tide turn back. I'll not join MAG.
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2025, 13:11:31 »
I don't believe 2030 will be the final date for ICE only motorcycle registrations. There will be some haggling between industry and HMG before then.
Yes, there may be some mild hybrids on the horizon too and it looks like these will probably get the green light beyond 2030 too.
But........I would hazard a guess that many on this forum aren't thinking about buying new bikes beyond 2030 anyway, many of us are getting older, long journeys will be fewer, EV's and their charging issues won't be such an issue perhaps?
Although if this creeky old body hangs on long enough I may even own an EV one day, maybe not. But there is one thing for sure a touring EV motorcycle is probably never going to happen. Is it?
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2025, 13:20:34 »
The advent of solid state batteries will be a game changer when they make their way into bikes. Higher energy density (more range) and significantly higher charging speeds (less faff) will make EV bikes viable. At the moment they take way too long to charge due to the small (7kW) onboard inverters. A change to rapid DC charging @ 400V or even 800V will see 10 minuet charge times. It's a way off though as the cars will have to get the technology first to pay fpr the development. They will be bloody rapid mind!  :auto-dirtbike:
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Re: The MIA claiims to speak for you. Does it?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2025, 15:15:44 »
I'm sorry, I have to say that if an electric bike had the same kind of range as a petrol bike and cost about the same money to buy, maybe less to run, I still wouldn't want an electric motorbike. I love the sound of a real bike and I like changing gears, it's all part of who I am from my early childhood, I grew up with petrol bikes and to me an electric bike would be too different.

I must admit though, I have never ridden an electric bike but one day I might be given the opportunity to try one. I'm 99.9% sure I won't change my mind. Good luck to those who do, respect.   :auto-dirtbike: :thumb:

One of my hero's Max Biaggi rode one and was the fastest man ever on one. I don't know if he still holds the record or what it was.

Edit: This is him. https://youtu.be/T4C-diJB_Mo?si=1pGtk-uWoUHfny2z
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