Hello thanks again for the reply’s so I have been doing the process of pumping, holding in, release nipple, close nipple, release brake , pump for over an hour yesterday, both calipers have fluid passing threw the lines and out of the realease valve however the pistons are still pushed all the way in to the bores, they haven’t popped out , so althoubthe fluid is coming out of the bleeder valve it’s not pushing out the pistons ? Thanks gert, I will for sure use the syringe method when I’m next doing it as I’m sure that saves alot of time, I think I’m probably going to take the calipers back off maybe compressed air to push out the pistons slightly and then see if that helps??