Service valve ?£?

[REM]

Hello. Couple days ago I have 30,000 miles and I need to make service valve. I found two company and two different price,what is the normal price makes service valve DL Vstrom 1000? Thank you.

[Barbel Mick]

There is no 'normal' price for a valve check! As you have already found out, prices will vary.
In my experience (with a 650 but pretty much the same work required) a check can be up to the £300 mark, if any shims need changing you can add another £200. If you use new OEM gaskets that will be another £70/80
But while the tank is off it's worth changing the plugs & air filter, (the coolant will be changed too) so you can add another £50/60.

[porter]

The franchised main Suzuki dealer here quoted £520 for the major 15k miles service including a valve check (not adjustment), new plugs, air filter, oil and filter and a throttle balance. Needless to say I didn't take them up on it!
  At 30k miles you will more than likely need a valve adjustment. My 1000 at 30k had two tight exhaust valves and all others including the inlets on minimum. All parts cost me £150 to do the job myself.

[REM]

Ducati company wants make service 120£ per hour,another company 75£per/h says +- 8h and want 500£+….. I forgot to say my oil, my filter, my spark plug. Bill Smith 1100£ for everything.

[nigel s]

On my 650 the 15,000 mile service was nearly £600 from the Suzuki main dealer.I wanted to keep the warranty so paid.
No valve shims needed changing,if they did it may have been a couple of hundred more.
On previous bikes I did everything myself bar the valve checks and then the price was pretty much as Barbel Mick said.
A   GOOD   independent will always be cheaper but can be hard to find if you don't know the area or are new to bikes.
Next time you are parked up with a load of other bikes, ask around,bikers are usually glad to chat.

[vstroman]

Not sure I trust dealers either to do the work they say they do, I always find you'll do things far better yourself and with more care.
I wouldn't be confident to do a valve check though and definitely would not attempt an adjustment but everything else like plugs/air filter coolant etc I'd do myself.
The labour charges these days are ridiculous.

[REM]

Another service and another price 850£~920£….

[duck-strom]

VStroman

You're right about labour charges being expensive, but I mind that less than the workshop not doing what you ask.

My bike was due it's valve check I had already done the rest of the servicing myself and I decided to try a different workshop which came recommended (there are only 3 options within 20 miles of me,  two of them have burnt their bridges to
 me already). I asked the bloke if he would check and adjust the valves for me and he was quite happy to do this his only stipulation was that if he had to order shims rather than use his stock of 'used' shims that I would have to pay for them which is what I would expect anyway.

Come to pick up the bike and presented with a bill for £505, full service performed, and valves checked (but not adjusted even though exhaust valves were just inside tolerance). When I quizzed him why they did a full service, he mumbled something about having to order parts in advance. So £505 pounds down and still need the valves adjusted 🤬

[Dark-Strom]

Sorry for your trouble Duckstrom, some garages only hear what they want hear, rather than what you ask.
This day and age I do not understand why we are having such short valve inspection intervals anyway.
I mean when's the last time you had a valve check on a car engine?
As much as it really goes against the grain for me (IMechE), I could be recommending to my lad to forget valve inspections and get them done when it's in for a valve job / top end rebuild at about 45k?
Which with 6k on the clock (2012 model) and at 3 to 4k miles a year going forward, will be about 10-13years from now (lad is going to be a long term owner, talks about another bike, but as well as the strom, never instead of)...anyway, 1 top end rebuild has got to be cheaper than 3 valve (and maybe adjust) checks?
Rant over, climbing back into hole...

[endintears]

Unless I'm missing something the valves don't need adjusting.
If they are in tolerance they are in tolerance.
When Suzuki (or any other manufacturer) specify a tolerance they factor in the expected wear to the next valve check so that even though it may be on the lower limit the engine will be fine untill that next check.
The service tolerance is not the same as the functional tolerance.
IMHO.

[duck-strom]

Endintears

You're probably right in what you say.

My 2016 650 has 52k miles on the clock. So far the closest it's got to a valve check is at MOT time, when the workshop assured me that if the emissions are OK then the valves are OK and not to bother with the expense of a full valve check.
I had a got a wee sniff that his gas analyser was not working so decided to have someone else look at it.

Left feeling I might as well have not bothered. Ideally I wanted the clearances adjusted to their start point.

[kwackboy]

Class 1& 2 MOT tests don't require Emissions... 

They're trying to pull your chain ...

[duck-strom]

He's no longer getting the opportunity. 

[REM]

OK…and another servis shop .. and now I know. Open and check only valve it’s cost 650£ but change shims valve and rubber seal it’s another 300£-320£ 😫 like I say before £1000 service needs rubber your wallet…. I don’t have place I don’t have garage I don’t have time and I need to do this only one options save money, go in and pay.

[Sage]

A lot of cars these days have hydraulic valves that are self adjusting, hence why cars rarely need a valve check. Very few bikes have these...Honda CBX750 anyone and I think the Pan America...?

In the last 20 years over half of my bikes have needed some shims changing at the first check, and it was usually around half of the shims in the engine. I know this because I do my own valve adjustments.

[Dark-Strom]

Thing is, with bills like that every few years , it can't be cheaper to run a bike than some cars...
Proof that bikes have become more a luxury than necessity ??

[nigel s]

REM,
Pretty sure you can get a better quote,keep trying,keep away from the "big" dealers.

Or trade it in for a NC750x.

[kwackboy]

OK…and another servis shop .. and now I know. Open and check only valve it’s cost 650£ but change shims valve and rubber seal it’s another 300£-320£ 😫 like I say before £1000 service needs rubber your wallet…. I don’t have place I don’t have garage I don’t have time and I need to do this only one options save money, go in and pay.

What model vstrom 1000 are you getting these silly quotes for ..?

£650 for a 30k valve check and a £1000 if they need changing is way over the top . !!

At most, with labour, cam cover gaskits and (if needed) ALL shims should be around £600 give or take  ...

[Barbel Mick]

Where are you based REM? Maybe someone could help with a garage or two you could try.

[nigel s]

Bill Smith is Chester I think.
Plenty of options round there.
Just need a recommendation from a local.

I had my Fazers valves done at a main dealer,all but one exhaust shims needed changing and two inlet.
£600.

And I got a courtesy bike.