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Brake Caliper Bolts
« on: February 07, 2021, 09:10:48 »
I need some caliper bolts for my 2012 DL650 as I rounded one of them while changing the pads. A search on eBay found titanium bolts but they are listed as 2008/2009. Could any of you clever chaps tell me please "Would they fit 2012?" I am hoping the answer is yes because I couldn't find anything listed specifically for the 2012. Thank you in advance  :thumb:

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2021, 09:49:49 »
If you mean the front caliper bolts then, yes.

Up until a few years ago, Suzuki have used the same front calipers for years.

I have to ask ....

How'd you round one of them  ?
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2021, 10:09:28 »
Beelzebub's bodge-o-matic?




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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2021, 11:20:43 »
Brute force and ignorance normally does it for me!

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2021, 14:21:47 »
I had to drill one out once   :fix:

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2021, 15:07:27 »
Change mine every three years or so  lol
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2021, 15:08:33 »
A caliper bolt ? Blimey, must have been way overtightened  ..  lol

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Do you even wear pads out having a new bike every three years ?  :stirpot:
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2021, 16:15:29 »
Not pads just usually tyres, some times it's not even 3 years before the need to change  :thumb:
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2021, 18:51:04 »
If you mean the front caliper bolts

Thank you, I will order them now.

 How did I round it off? I don't know. It was the last of four to be undone with a 14mm socket. It was turning freely when I stopped then tried to unscrew it with my fingers and thumb but found it hadn't turned at all but was rounded off.

I borrowed a magic socket from a garage across the road to remove it, changed the pads then had to use the rounded bolt again until I can replace it. Good news is, the man in the garage said I can borrow the socket again when I get the replacement bolt.

The magic socket looked like any other but had to be tapped on with a small mallet. Very useful bit of kit. I would have been knackered without it.  :shy:
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2021, 19:29:46 »
Right you want the caliper mounting bolt.

You'll want to look your bike up on Fowlers Parts, do an online chat and see if they are there and dispatching.
You'll get stung for postage, but I wouldn't in a million years consider bodging a repair with a non genuine part there!



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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2021, 20:07:50 »
Thank you for your concern mr diver but, I wouldn't call changing the original bolts, that are made of butter, to racing quality titanium bolts a bodge. I have also ordered stainless steel R clips to replace the cheap and nasty originals. The V-Strom is a great bike (as you know) but some of it's component parts are very poor standard.

I've said it before on this site, I would happily pay £100 more for the bike if they would put it together with quality fittings.  :thumb:
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2021, 21:44:12 »
I wouldn't call anyone out on their way and view of OEM bolts/screws and sufficient tools/kit to do the job.

I've had issues with six sided sockets and multi sided sockets, ring and open spanners. Screw drivers are the same........

The only thing I know that's true is if you have the right tool to do the job and use it properly it will suceed. In my experience it's usually the former at fault though.  :shy:
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2021, 21:53:55 »
I think going by the 'book' caliper bolts should be replaced regularly, doubt they ever are though.
Saying that I might order some new ones at some stage,genuine ones of course. I use copper grease on them so they are easier got out again, not sure if that's right or wrong, some say to use a thread lock on them.


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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2021, 10:46:01 »
Real racing parts are generally designed for short term, often single use, so not always a smart move for a road bike despite the allure of the promise of more speed & power. Titanium itself is soft so you need to be sure whatever alloy you're sold is suitable for high tensile usage. In general though, swapping to titanium on a road bike is a fashion statement rather than a need to save a few grams, so bolts for that market are often designed with form over function in mind. Think of it as buying Roquefort to replace the Tesco white label blue that Suzuki used: still cheese, you just spent more on it.
One advantage of titanium though, is that it is closer to aluminium than iron in terms of reactivity so less likely to cause differential corrosion in your calipers.
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2021, 11:43:02 »
My local Dealer, "Orwells" is only 30 miles away and my first port of call for parts. They have never let me down. To find if parts are "common" they look up the part numbers. I always use stock Suzuki parts where I can.  Not so easy with the 31 year old VX on which one brake disc bolt sheared off despite being in as new condition having never been removed. "Oh! yes a late result ... Suzuki threadlock 1 disc bolt 0"
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2021, 13:56:47 »
I gave up using multi point sockets years ago, I now use wall drive sockets, they are great you can even get bolts out with no points left at all with those.

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2021, 14:13:37 »
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 Hello vstroman, any chance you could let me know where in the "book" it tells you to replace the caliper mounting bolts please.
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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2021, 15:50:58 »
Hi Ian. can't really say where I read that to be honest just think I read it somewhere that the caliper bolts should be replaced after a certain period of use, I expect someone here will know more about the subject than myself no doubt.

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2021, 16:24:37 »
My brothers 08 fireblade manual says the brake caliper bolts should be replaced everytime they are removed, they never have been.

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Re: Brake Caliper Bolts
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2021, 16:36:59 »
From what I can see, it looks like a 10mm bolt and is torqued to 39Nm: that's a normal figure for an 8.8 grade fastener that the marking on the head might point to it being (or not: Suzuki like being different...).
It's not as if there's any amount of stretch or yield coming into the equation that would mandate replacement. Can't say I've ever come across that as a requirement for brakes on anything I've worked on.
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