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Offline MartinW

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #100 on: April 03, 2016, 14:00:38 »
Cancel the Gixxer order now, you will find your bike gets fixed immediately.
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2016, 17:36:20 »
+1 to Martin's sound advice  :thumb:

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2016, 16:05:55 »
Took mine in before opening today.  Just got it back.  No issues. Thank you Padgetts of Batley. They've only had one bike that needed the work doing, and they've all the bits in stock. They've been there ever since I can remember, there were three generations of them in the shop today. Can't fault them for service, did a good price on new tyres last year too.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #103 on: April 09, 2016, 21:40:33 »
Hi

Got my L2 Glee past 52k miles this afternoon, and its running fine.
I did a valve check at 15.5k miles (two shims changed) and again at 34k miles (all within the high end of the spec) so just buttoned it all back up again.
I intend to do the next valve check around 70k miles, unless the bike tells me otherwise.

I agree with Greywolf, that after the initial check the valve clearances stay pretty much within bounds of Suzuki's spec. as long as the oil and filter changes are done at the right times.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #104 on: April 09, 2016, 22:12:58 »
 Recall for the tappets/valves completed today: no issues.
However, I dropped the bike off to the dealers at 09:30 after riding it there (18 miles).
At noon I get a call saying it's all done. Checking valve clearances needs to be done on a totally cold engine.. 2 and a half hours to do all the work on a bike that wasn't cold when they took it in? Need to be concerned?

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2016, 11:58:25 »
they either didn't touch it or they did it and the measurements will be all to pot and you could end up with valve contacting the piston or a valve that doesn't open fully.
I'd be contacting Suzuki before you ride it away



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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2016, 20:12:01 »
Well I droped my bike of at 4pm at saltire in Edinburgh tonight for the work to be done tomorrow on the cold bike will keep you posted
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #107 on: April 13, 2016, 13:41:24 »
I contacted Suzuki GB to query the length of time my bike was in the workshop. They replied that they advise dealerships to spend a 'minimum 1.9hrs on checking the valve clearances', so the time my bike was in was 'acceptable to determine if your vehicle needs any parts replacing on the recall'.
My bike rides beautifully, engine hasn't missed a beat in the 11 odd thousand miles of ownership. It's quiet, starts first time and is smooth and responsive with no changes evident in the last few thousand miles so I'm happy to continue riding it and clock up more miles.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #108 on: April 13, 2016, 13:58:22 »
The time spent on the job it is irrelevant, it is the amount of time they wait for the engine to cool down. I guess they could have stripped it pretty soon after getting it and waited a couple of hours, done the check and stuck it back together.

Why they didn't round that to 2 hours I'll never know. I doubt any dealers will track time accurate enough to make the distinction between 114 minutes and 120 minutes.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2016, 15:56:02 »
I did also mention the issue of riding the bike there and that it was hot and the fact valve clearance checks need to be done on a cold engine.
I went into quite some detail with that because of what the mechanic told me.
They didn't mention this at all in their email reply so I guess if Suzuki GB are happy then I shouldn't be too concerned myself.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #110 on: May 05, 2016, 12:21:28 »
Just checked my L2, not on the list.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #111 on: July 03, 2016, 22:50:14 »
My dealer had my L2 in for recall last week had cams and buckets changed.mine was the first strom to be done.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #112 on: November 18, 2016, 10:17:11 »
Long saga,but here in Ireland the only crowd that do the recall work is the distributor in Dublin 210 miles from me.
Their mechanic is onsite Tuesday wed and Thursday each week.
They weren’t aware of the recall when I rang them early this year.
Eventually got them to agree to allow a local dealer (50 miles away) to do the job. However, if it was out of spec I would have to take the bike from them and get it to Dublin for the cam replacement at my own cost. Decided to take the chance.
Job done yesterday,(15k miles) but I had to pay for coolant replacement etc. I got the plugs replaced when they had it opened up, throttle bodies checked and connectors  cleaned.
Left a typed sheet with instructions for them

Record valve clearances , adjust if necessary.
Check /Change? plugs (Iridium) keep old ones.
Check throttle bodies.
Clean airbox and filter.
Check cable runs for chafing and protect as necessary.
Disconnect connectors particularly those behind rad. Coat with grease.

Clearances were OK as expected, but after being very specific about what I wanted done, I was disappointed to be greeted with a funny look when I asked what the clearances were. They never recorded the readings. Needless to say when they checked with the mechanic, he said that they were in the middle.
Suzuki allowed €85 towards the job. They supplied the gaskets but not the coolant. It took 6 months and about 30 phone calls to get it done. I’m sorry I didn’t do the check myself and forget about the recall.
Dealer was courteous and efficient (apart from recording the clearances), problem seems to be up the line.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #113 on: November 18, 2016, 11:31:45 »
I too asked for the clearances to be recorded, they wasn't, but also bike wasn't put back together properly and a loose relay jammed my throttle on after an overtake. They also scratched my frame. That took them 3 weeks to achieve too.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #114 on: November 18, 2016, 13:10:17 »
Hmmm, I was going to do them myself as I'm sure they are fine but I keep getting recall letters from Suzuki.
I don't particularly trust dealers, I have no idea who is decent (or not...)  locally (Millenium or Bolton mc's).

If it went to a dealer, it would close the outstanding recall and I could get the throttle body air screws checked and I woukd like the measured clearances on record for future but listening to Bigpies experience....
If clearances are a bit tight, I bet they wouldn't get done anyway.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #115 on: November 19, 2016, 18:27:41 »
I asked for for a record of clearances when mine were done during recall. No record, just a "They are within the recommended tolerances sir"!!
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #116 on: January 16, 2017, 13:29:22 »
OK, mine is in for the tappet and stator recalls.
I've just had a call from the dealer and the clearances are out of spec but slightly tight.... so going off Suzukis guidelines, they are ordering the cam & bucket kit, which seems odd to me but Hello ho.

It's the first one they've had that's been out of spec.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #117 on: January 16, 2017, 14:54:06 »
Your dealer is an idiot. Slightly tight is normal wear at the valve seat with only an adjustment required. The recall is about a rare case of extreme wear between the cam and tappet that would make them very loose.
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #118 on: January 16, 2017, 15:07:37 »
That's what I thought, just reshimming required to any that are out of spec (or borderline if the cams are out anyway).
There is no logic replacing cams/buckets for a wear issue if clearances are out of spec tight.....

They say they have Suzuki protocol for various eventualities, replacing cams at Suzukis cost with tight clearance being one such scenario. I did query it but the chap at service reception was adamant.
I'd prefer original components left as is, with a reshim in all honesty.


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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #119 on: January 17, 2017, 14:29:57 »
Right, an imprmptu visit to the dealer to ask a few questions.....

Reading between the lines, it sounds like my bike is one of the seemingly very few with the wear issue.

I was told if the clearances are too SMALL, you get the cam/bucket kit, if they are too BIG they reshim, which is plainly incorrect.

I think the service reception are getting mixed up mixed up with 'big' & 'small' clearance, although they did mention cam lobe wear as one of the checks (whereby small/under tolerance would indicate wear...) & that some of the cams were 'soft' (despite even Suzuki saying it's due to contamination...)

Parts due in tomorrow, they will give me a sheet with measured clearances upon completion.

It's not great to suggest someone is wrong or lying in such situations so a quick thanks for them keeping me updated & I'm on my way

Lets hope the mechanic is on the ball.

Bollocks.