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Offline JesterRich

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Scottoiler OR not
« on: August 16, 2015, 22:21:33 »
I've been looking at getting a scottoiler, what are your thoughts ?  Read forum but can't seem to be decisive on what I should do,  I've got a 2014 vstrom 1000. Not doing massive touring miles, just evenings and weekend rides. Cheers  :fix:

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2015, 22:27:50 »
They work well enough but flow rate does vary with temperature which can lead to under or over oiling.

I like Loobman for low cost & simplicity.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2015, 22:43:07 »
I use the high capacity reservoir on both my stroms one has 25k the other has more than 35k. They are still on the original chain and spockets. (07 & 55 plates).
I think they work brilliantly.
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 22:44:11 »
... or you could just make your own. Same principle - manual delivery when necessary.  :)

http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=22441

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 23:01:00 »
I agree with Hondaman, I've a Tutoro manual feed which I use for short periods to keep the chain wet but not into 'fling' territory. That's all you should need. Automatic systems can be over generous because you leave it to just 'do it'. That is a waste of lubricant like sprays are too.

I do clean the chain when necessary which also contributes to extending chain life.  :grin:
So how's it going so far then?

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2015, 00:02:44 »
Thanks for words of wisdom, will do some cost comparison. Unfortunately Descolada even though your link is very informative and well written I would have the same concerns as to whether the bulb would be pressed by passers-by just to see what it did. Cheers all :ty:

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2015, 06:35:12 »
After using Scottoilers & PD mini oilers I've settled on the automatic TUTORO.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2015, 06:41:15 »
Tutoro Auto for me too.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2015, 07:54:57 »
If you are riding just evenings and weekends and not through rain and winter then I don't think you need one. Just give if a manual oil once in a while.
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2015, 08:48:50 »
In the two years I have been using this I have never had anyone come up and press the bulb. If you have malicious intent there are far more obvious things you can do to a bike to feck up the rider.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2015, 12:04:36 »
I've used Scottoilers for years and yes you do get a bit of fling if they aren't set up correctly but having put 24k on a Bandit chain I was hooked. I don't do the mileage I used to do and do t really need one but they are so easy, I'll keep using one until I move to a shaft drive :). That said I'm talking about automatic oilers in general not just the Scottoiler, I tried a lubeman which worked fine but a used Scottoiler came up so I bought it.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2015, 13:41:55 »
I'm just about to fit new sprockets and chain to my 650,

I like the idea with the Tutoro that it works on movement rather than having to use a vacuum takeoff.

Are those using one still happy with their choice?

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2015, 17:07:54 »
just fitted a PD mK3 to my wee, see the thread, some pics posted.
At £76 delivered, cheaper than a scotoiler, and nothing connected to engine. Seems to be doing its job

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2015, 17:19:54 »
just fitted a PD mK3 to my wee, see the thread, some pics posted.
At £76 delivered, cheaper than a scotoiler, and nothing connected to engine. Seems to be doing its job

Yes, been looking at the PD. I like the idea that it works at all temperatures. The Tuturo looks good too.

Choices, choices?
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2015, 17:49:03 »
OK. I like the PD because it delivers a constant feed regardless of temperature or oil viscosity. And, it positively wipes the oil on rather than just let it drip. On my Tiger the inside plates don't get their fair share of oil with a single-feed Scottoiler.

I don't mind the need for an electrical system as I have a relay system under the seat. Also, no need for a vacuum feed.

Only question now is - the MK3 with the integrated tank but not easy to refill or see the level, or the Mini with the extra tank but easier to use???

Come on PD users - chip in

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 17:52:19 »
I have the Mini. The external tank is so easy to fill and to see if it even needs to be filled. I'm happy with it.

The tank looks like it will do 4000 miles or more anyway.
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 17:54:25 »
I have the Mini. The external tank is so easy to fill and to see if it even needs to be filled. I'm happy with it.

The tank looks like it will do 4000 miles or more anyway.

Thanks. I was thinking along those lines too
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 23:53:34 »
I have the all-in-one version as finding space on Katie for the separate tank was asking too much. I found I need to check the tank every six months & top up once a year: 2 minute job to dip the level.

I think I have it set around 2 and it keeps the chain damp enough at that.
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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2015, 11:07:30 »
I've just ordered a new 650 VStrom and have ordered a standard V system Scott Oiler to be fitted before delivery.
The reason being I have had the same device fitted to my 650 Bandit for 7 years and 24k miles and chain and sprockets show no sign of wear and have only been adjusted twice outside of service time.
Flow rate is simple to adjust and I haven't been affected by temperature. I top up the reservoir every 2 to 300 miles and if used more or less oil than usual I adjust the dial.
I haven't used the other makes and they may be just as good but I can't fault Scottoiler.

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Re: Scottoiler OR not
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2015, 11:39:29 »
I top up the reservoir every 2 to 300 miles

I think that's the same frequency my grandad had to do the engine oil on his old Allegro.....
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