Author Topic: Brake Pads (Read 2133 times)

grumps · « **on:** February 21, 2015, 15:52:50 »

I reckon I'm not far off a new set of front and rear pads for my '58 650DL

What/where do you blokes buy yours?

Thanks

David

V-Strom3 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2015, 16:15:41 »

I had my first set of front pads changed at 30ish k, on a 55 plate.

Still running on the original pads on my 57 plate with 23ish k on the clock.

Still running original pads on rear on both bikes.

grumps · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2015, 16:19:01 »

Hhmm...I have about 3mm left on all pads but I don't know what that means by way of miles left ( I know it depends upon riding style) but I have a trip end of April of about 800 miles so I'm just being cautious.

Bike has done about 18k miles but I don't know if these are the original pads

frez · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2015, 16:44:21 »

Front pads EBC HH off ebay.

I also went for EBC HH for the rear, but many prefer EBC GG on the rear.

grumps · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2015, 16:56:52 »

I like the idea of GG on the rear. A bit more grab?

frez · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2015, 18:14:39 »

GG is less grabby, it also wears quicker, some people find the HH locks up the rear too easily, but I never found that to be the case.

grumps · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2015, 18:20:31 »

Ah..rethink!

HH both ends then

mr_diver · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:38:20 »

GG both ends. Hh ate the oem disks.

tallpaul · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:40:43 »

Good point Mr diver! Pads are cheaper than disks and easier to fit! What is the difference in braking performance?

grumps · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2015, 09:59:54 »

Why is nothing simple?

GG = less stopping power but disk-friendly

HH = Better stopping but eats disks.

These?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-DL650- ... 1c3a5bb3db

Also looking at the semi-sintered V pad.

Choices, choices!

greywolf · « **Reply #10 on:** February 22, 2015, 15:13:35 »

I ran EBC HH pads on my K7 Wee for over 50,000 miles for stronger braking. I never had a disc problem. BTW, the stock front pads are marked HH. One manufacturer's HH will be different from another's. Many riders use HH pads with no disc problems. There are racing pads that will wear out discs so one basic is to avoid racing pads for street use.

grumps · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2015, 15:35:57 »

Quote from: "greywolf"

I ran EBC HH pads on my K7 Wee for over 50,000 miles for stronger braking. I never had a disc problem.

Thanks

greywolf · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2015, 15:55:36 »

The EBC pads in the ebay link are the GG organic pads, not the sintered HH pads.

grumps · « **Reply #13 on:** February 22, 2015, 15:57:04 »

Yeh, I saw that.

I have a bit of time so I'll trawl for a deal on the HH pads

endintears · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2015, 09:50:43 »

Anybody know which type of pad does not stick /"rust" on to the disc if you park the bike up still wet.
OE ones seem too.

greywolf · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2015, 13:35:49 »

The culprit in corrosion sticking is the water, especially salt water. There is no pad or rotor that will avoid that.

endintears · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2015, 15:10:33 »

Quote from: "greywolf"

The culprit in corrosion sticking is the water, especially salt water.

OK yes, but seems the materials in the pad act as a catalyst to the amount of corrosion taking place in what seems a relatively short time so I just wondered if anybody swapping from oe pads onto sintered or organic or just different brand had noticed any difference.
Stainless steel disks for a Strom? :eusa-think: mmm not really.
Thanks for the info looks like I just need to dry my brakes.

greywolf · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2015, 15:17:49 »

The rotors are a variety of stainless steel. That doesn't mean surface corrosion is not possible. The varieties of SS that are totally corrosion free are too soft to be used as brake rotors. The pad material does not act as a catalyst, it just delays evaporation by limiting air flow that aids evaporation.

UK_Vstrom650 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2015, 19:51:39 »

You could always ACF50 them

(DON'T!)

I find it frees up with a sharp shove and they clean up pretty quickly after a short ride.

grumps · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2015, 18:39:33 »

OK, I have changed back and front for EBC HH pads.

On the rear there were the backing shims on the pads as expected. But the front pads didn't have the shims fitted as described in the manual.

I assume they are anti-squeal shims. Are the shims model-specific or not really needed. ? Brakes have been working just fine.

I did have to free up the pin that the inner pad slides along as it had become corroded and gunged up, a smear of copperslip went on as well. I am glad I took the opportunity to fit some more pads even though the existing ones had a fair bit of life left in them.

Fluid change next