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Offline oddbod

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2014, 17:22:19 »
Off hand I haven't got a clue where to purchase a TPS without googling around.
All I can offer is wait and see what the outcome is with me and I will update this post for all to see/use.
Interesting that you say you've tried adjusting the TPS with no results. Fingers crossed I get to the bottom of it at my end soon.
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #41 on: May 25, 2014, 17:32:38 »
They are probably going to let Suzuki look at it. If you need a new part the dealer will not want to be out of pocket. I think Suzuki have responded well,maybe too quickly. I bet you didn't take the mileage? I had this same scenario on a new smax,it was a relay but I had to go to fords for the fix.The dealer had no idea, It was a quiet re-call.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #42 on: May 25, 2014, 17:51:22 »
Judging by the dealers vague responses to my any suggestions I offered, you could well be right by suggestion they are sending it to Suzuki to sort. Btw , yep I noted the mileage when I dropped it off.
They can put 100 miles on it for all I care, as long as the bloody thing is fixed
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2014, 17:53:49 »
Quote from: "gnewso"
Where can I buy a new/used tps? I've got the issues talked about here, bike is great at speed and doesn't use much fuel going to leeds, but around town it's a pig and stalls loads and uneven idle. It's spoiling a great bike. I've tried to adjust it, keeps moving loads, but didn't seem to so,be the issue
You don't have a 2014 model. Those symptoms are typical of lean fueling issues the older bikes had.
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #44 on: May 25, 2014, 19:58:52 »
Odd bod,I meant the opposite it won't have a mile on it just Suzuki can't admit to a fault and the new part flying in will be fitted. The other new 1000 owners have been very quiet and you have rather a lot of hits. But then I am the suspicious type. I am getting closer to buying one though think they look good.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2014, 20:26:41 »
gnewso - as greywolf suggests, often (not always) such issues with the old 1000 are due to lean fuelling, and can be solved by 'remapping' how the onboard computer (ECU) delivers fuel to the engine at different speeds. It's possible to do this at home using a 'yoshi box', or for a dealer to do this. Of course, there are other things which could cause similar symptoms and you need to see which is the best 'fit' for your own bike. Try this link on the VSRI forum for some background reading.

If you need more help, start a new thread in the V Strom Specific section so this one doesn't get distracted from the new 1000abs issues  :)  :thumb:
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2014, 20:52:20 »
I have a powercommander installed, but I took the map off and put a zero map on due to the fact it was terrible to ride at 3.5k rpm and 5k. And also used a tank of fuel for a 110 mile ride.....now does half a tank

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2014, 21:08:17 »
Timmo,
I catch your drift now.
As long as the bike is fixed I'll be happy.
Apart from the above (and the buffeting issue which I don't class as a fault and have nearly sorted now), I really love the bike. It looks great, handles great, is lovely to ride (when its not cutting out) and will be putting a big smile on my face for many years....once sorted....
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2014, 21:16:46 »
btw oddbod, what bike did they loan you?


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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2014, 22:41:00 »
I keep hearing about all this buffeting in my day we would be happy with a ham roll, far to many spoilt bikers they will be complaining about the Hor d'oeuvres next.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2014, 08:36:03 »
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2014, 09:27:21 »
:grin:

I didn't get what timmo was talking about - thought I was going mad - to be honest I thought 'F%ck me' and other crudites...
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2014, 21:24:17 »
I am seriously looking at the new 1000 but is it me ? The new owners are keeping quiet. I know of two in the dealers now ! I will be shouting from the rooftops about mine even if I decide the 650 glee is my choice. Come On you Veek owners forget the price, and buffeting, tell us what's great about them.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2014, 23:53:37 »
Quote from: "Timmo"
I am seriously looking at the new 1000 but is it me ? The new owners are keeping quiet. I know of two in the dealers now ! I will be shouting from the rooftops about mine even if I decide the 650 glee is my choice. Come On you Veek owners forget the price, and buffeting, tell us What's great about them.

Firstly.... check about your accessories situation over there. I'm ready for first service but accessories are still nowhere to be seen - I contacted the dealer and Suzuki Australia yesterday since I figure nearly a month is sufficient time to wait. Will await S/A's reply.
I was never caught up in the whole "price" thing. Using direct exchange rates (which doesn't tell the whole story) mine was nearly 15% cheaper than the UK list, and that was "ride away" price. Other bikes sometimes touted as better equipped competitors (Caponord, GS1200, KTM1190Adv) are nearly 50% dearer here - no contest when I really examined what I needed from this bike since the others won't do what my heavily modded DR650 can do on the rough stuff either. The Vstrom is simply my tourer which can take on a bit of gravel and dirt to go from tar road to tar road the short way. This can save me several hundred kms when out and beyond.

OK, my thoughts since you asked -
 
600 miles into ownership and I'm already down to 5mm chicken strips on the tyres, such is the balance, smooth power delivery and agile handling. I was expecting it to be a little ponderous compared to my previous bike but it isn't, even with that 19" front hoop. Holds a line beautifully, bars give plenty of leverage.

Fuel consumption is better than I expected too. So far it has 4.4/litres per 100 showing (64+MPG) and I'm thinking it'll be around 4.5 all the time when fully run in, even accounting for using more revs on occasions.
In my usage this will always be a 60+mpg bike giving an easy 250 miles between fills. With my 10 litre collapsible fuel bladder I'll have a safe range of nearly 400 miles.

Brakes are top notch, plenty of stopping power and feel (from the GSXR1000 I believe). Only issue is non switchable ABS so I'll be watching for a modification to turn off the rear.

The seat suits me fine even though some here don't agree. Mind you, I've managed 1100kms in a day on a rock hard DR650 seat, so I'm an iron b-u-t-t. The screen depends totally on the individual's needs. Mine is at the highest level and seems fine. I'll need many hundreds of kms on freeway type roads to see if it gets irritating - but who wants to ride freeway anyway?  BTW, I'm 180cms and 180lbs just for comparison purposes.

Here we ride all year round, don't have corrosive conditions for bikes and it lives in a ventilated garage. Chances are I'll never be qualified to comment on corrosion or other deterioration.

Wife reports pillion perch is comfortable (I take it she means she can handle short hauls of 200kms or so before a coffee).

I find the bars a little too slim for my hands. I just put on a throttle rocker so I can relax my grip and uncurl my hands a bit.

Luggage handling I won't know about till the panniers arrive. I bought a 45 quid cheapy rear rack soft bag which carries a change of clothes,shoes and toiletries (or my helmet). That'll do a weekend ride if I'm staying in a country pub overnight.

Suspension while good will need to be adjusted in micro steps to get the exact feel I want. The compression damping seemed a little harsh to me on rough tar the other day. There's an advantage in buying the expensive alternative bikes if you don't like fiddling to find what suits you.

The pegs do go exactly where I would naturally put my legs unfortunately. I minimise this by dropping them a little early before I stop and running the pegs up to my calf muscles which lift them up slightly. That's on flat stops only - slightly uphill or downhill stops puts them in a more comfortable position.

All in all I'm very content with the bike. It's not only "great value" (I hate that description - it sounds condescending), it is a very good motor bike in any company. There are things every individual will have to alter or learn to live with but that's the same for every choice out there.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2014, 05:03:12 »
Quite right the bike goes to the dealer until fixed. They may have to get the area technical rep in to sort if the dealer cannot.
I have 3,500 miles on the clock of mine now and all going well.
Hope you're sorted soon.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2014, 09:50:05 »
Quote from: "Timmo"
I am seriously looking at the new 1000 but is it me ?

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2014, 10:20:47 »
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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2014, 10:40:38 »
Stevecrow,thanks mate that was helpful, there's a lot of plus's for me thinner bars, even footrest position is where I want them while riding but not when stopping but worth the trade especially listening to the miles you do. Still have not had demo yet (pissing down with rain here again) meant to be all week. The Glee was a great demo ticked all the boxes but I just like the look of the Veek so much I am trying to justify the extra cost. I think Suzuki where not ready for the release of the Veek there was one bloke on here that got all his accessories day one but more that didn't. Good luck getting your stuff!

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2014, 12:11:19 »
Quote from: "Timmo"
. I think Suzuki where not ready for the release of the Veek there was one bloke on here that got all his accessories day one but more that didn't. Good luck getting your stuff!

They didn't get the Glee's out till a few months after the launch as well.

I'm looking forward to having a go on the litre bike this weekend, hope it keeps dry and not too windy.

I know the OP isn't happy with how the bikes running, but it's good to see that there aren't many complaints.

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Re: new Strom cuts out/backfires/stalls on pull away
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2014, 13:56:57 »
Yeah but I was hoping for more compliments,it seems owners are a bit defensive. I would be saying." Excellent riding position in command in traffic moves very well do not need to keep changing down gears when reaching the front of the que it pulls in all low gears,so no clunking into first. Foot pegs are in position for natural feet position( hence being in way when stopping) Suzuki have listened to the people. The knockers who talk about dead spot in 5 - 6000 rev range are the ones going through their gearbox at junctions corners etc and as for buffeting,you shouldn't be eating and riding anyway. Yes and I have only sat on one so far ( did I mention the good mirrors? I think I have sold this bike to me already,meant to be dry end of week so off for demo ride.