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Offline mjc506

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Super softy heated mirrors!
« on: January 17, 2014, 13:42:12 »
Yeah, I know, luxuries...  :) But in all honesty, having perfectly clear mirrors, no matter if it's freezing cold, raining and foggy, makes me happier riding in traffic.

This is a simple and cheap mod, with one step a little risky if you're too impatient. As always, you're looking at something written by a stranger on the internet, so any mistakes you make are your own :)

Parts needed:
Stock mirrors (I've not tried with other mirrors, but the method should be similar)
el-cheapo DIY heated grip set (similar to this. Try to find the highest wattage/lowest resistance you can)
Soldering iron
Heat shrink (or electrical tape if you're cheap :) )
Doublesided tape
Drill bit (~4-5mm, or if you're lazy and don't mind the fumes, a hot soldering iron bit)
Heated grip controller (optional, but nice to have)
Your finest, freshly cleaned, oven/grill combo :limp:

Step 1)
Remove the mirror from your bike, and place under the grill on LOW HEAT (80-90degC max) and wait until the plastic is hot to touch and soft. Needless to say, don't burn yourself...

You can just about see that I've already started step two.

Step 2)
Using your fingernails/credit card/bread knife, carefully lever/pop the mirror out of the plastic. Careful - not enough patience in step one can lead to a broken mirror (been there, done that). The 'mirroring' on the back of the glass can also be scratched off with a sharp instrument, and the glass is glued to the foam underneath. It may take two heatings to get the glass off completely.


Step 3)
You now have a nice hot mirror. Let it cool naturally, then clean any excess foam from the back. Again, be careful, don't scratch the surface or cut yourself...


Step 4)
While the mirror is drying/cooling, turn your attention to the heated grips kit. Cut the wires, leaving a decent length attached to the heater part.
, Also, cut a small hole near the ball joint part of the mirror for the wires to pass through.

Step 5)
Apply plenty of double sides tape to the mirror side of your heater. On my set, one side was clear plastic, the other was a waxy brown paper. I made the mistake of removing this - don't. It protects the incredibly thin layers of metal and carbon which make up the heater.


Step 6)
Stick the heater to the mirror. This image shows the carbon under the brown paper. As above, you shouldn't remove this (if present).


Step 7)
Thread the wires through, and stick the mirror back under the grill. This image shows the brown paper removed and double sided tape applied. Don't copy that - leave the brown wax paper where it is. The double sided tape is not required.


Step 8)
Once the plastic is soft again, pop the glass back in. Finger pressure is all that is required. Again, impatience here can crack the glass, extra heatings may be required. Once the glass is in, and cooled down, clean off all the grease and grill juice.


Step 9)
Solder the heated grip connection to the heater wires. (The heated grips controller is good, as you can select different power depending upon the weather, and it automagically turns off with the ignition (if wired correctly). Most also have an LED indication.)


Step 10)
Re-fit to the bike! I've also shown two methods of tidying the wire away. The mirrors will now clear of mist within a few seconds, and rain will be gone within 2-3 minutes.


I was initially concerned about overheating, but this has proved to be a non-issue. As the heaters get hotter, their resistance increases, so the power output drops. Mine seem to stabilise around 50-60degC, but of course this will change depending on revs, ambient temperature, heater kit used etc. Once moving, the temperature drops a touch too, but stays warm enough to keep the mirrors clear even during downpours.

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Offline stibbs

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2014, 13:51:20 »
Very clever......... :thumb:

Offline Descolada

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2014, 14:15:15 »
Very nice work. I would not have thought of this one but it makes perfect sense.  :clap:

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 14:26:40 »
This is great :)  I'm not sure if I'd go to the trouble of doing it myself as I'm more of an occasional rider during the winter, but if I were commuting every day on the bike throughout winter then I'd probably do this too.

Someone get this man a Blue Peter badge!  :thumb:

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 15:07:41 »
Having ridden many a mile on bikes without mirrors I'm sort of immune to the misted and crap ones, but that is a really neat solution.

Andy

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 15:09:42 »
Glad to see my old mirrors put to good use!
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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 15:15:39 »
:thumb: Great idea  :thumb:

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 15:22:51 »
Top marks, that's a great idea. I think Touratech do them for the GS at £3,999 a pair...
It's pronounced 'twenty-one-twelve'

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 15:45:42 »
Quote from: "2112"
I think Touratech do them for the GS at £3,999 a pair...

 lol

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2014, 16:38:47 »
:GRR:  :GRR: They are £3999 each - I detest inaccurate information.
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Offline Abercol

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2014, 16:46:55 »
And if they are anything like my Touratw*t GPS holder, they will distort the fittings and go rusty/flakey inside of 18 months.

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 17:31:05 »
Ah, Charlie Boorman can afford it :)  I just watched a MCN video of him and a load of other RTW riders talking about RTW riding... he went very quiet and looked sheepish when one of them said something like "what I like is that feeling of being out there on your own... if something goes wrong, you have to sort it out. You don't have a helicopter support crew who will arrive to help you out."  I suspect he was thinking "but... but... I really like my helicopter support crew!!" :)

Anyway, this is off topic... bad Matt  :shy:

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 17:39:00 »
50 - 60 degrees C?! You don't need heated grips then. You can just grab hold of the mirrors instead!! lol

Seriously, I like it when people try out new stuff like this. Can't beat a bit of shed time for something useful! :fix:  :clap:
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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 18:04:50 »
Neat job for "real" bikers. :thumb:
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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 19:23:24 »
Quote from: "MartinW"
:GRR:  :GRR: They are £3999 each - I detest inaccurate information.

My bad, (your bad what?) I was distracted by the 'emergency repair strips' at only £9.99 each. On second thoughts they did look a lot like tie wraps...
It's pronounced 'twenty-one-twelve'

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 10:17:38 »

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 10:47:09 »
lol  Brilliant site !
It's pronounced 'twenty-one-twelve'

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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 10:53:50 »
lol
Must stop laughing
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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 12:41:15 »
GS owners must be lapping up this shite! And all at bargain prices! Shame about the stock levels but I suppose they are just victims of their own success. .. not!
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Re: Super softy heated mirrors!
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 23:04:50 »
18 replies?! :shock:

I should have mentioned that iansoady is at least due some credit, as he supplied two spare mirrors to me (I needed a LH mirror as I'd cracked the glass, he sent me one, I found an old spare RH of mine, assumed it was his, told him he'd sent the wrong one... I'm a clutz)
Projects:
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Brighter rear indicators]Complete![/url]
Heated mirrors]Complete![/url]
Cruise control/Speed limiter/V-puter]Pending...[/color]