Author Topic: 2014 DL1000 vs 2014 Super Tenere (Read 5902 times)

Fat Rat · « **on:** January 03, 2014, 17:04:09 »

Is there any comparison

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-XT1200 ... 20cbb0fbde

ProfG · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2014, 17:09:00 »

One has a beak while the other does not even have a chin

MartinW · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2014, 17:15:22 »

One has two headlights whereas the other has only been half thought through

Tusker · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2014, 17:18:19 »

one is a Yamaha the other a Suzuki

is this a test

Locky · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2014, 17:32:21 »

One's as heavy as a small car and the others a Suzuki . I wouldn't like to take the Tenere down any trails , more of a Touring machine .. I rode one for a few hours when they first came out , great to ride but just too heavy for any off road work . I'd buy one if they went on a diet ..
I'll sell both my bikes if the 900 ever comes to life and is lighter ..

Tusker · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2014, 17:51:11 »

only the odd 60kg heavier than the Tiger,,,, mind you that won't be going offroad whilst I own it ....

Gassoon · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2014, 19:45:11 »

Beat me to it, locky!

Adjustable seat height is useful mind...

Redsoul · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2014, 22:31:22 »

The weight on the S10 is down low.I test rode one while I owned my varadero and is was like riding a bicycle in comparison.
This bike was built from the ground up to go off road and there are countless videos from s Africa and australia of blokes taking this bike down some very technical trails.

frez · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2014, 22:38:29 »

Despite the weight it will make a better off road bike than the Veek. Suzuki has underplayed all off road ability for the new bike.

loggamatt · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2014, 23:11:42 »

One is old(ish), thus relatively cheap.

One is new, thus relatively expensive.

Never buy brand new model bikes!

Fat Rat · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2014, 23:45:49 »

Gassoon · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2014, 14:17:32 »

In less than a year there'll be vids of new DL's ridden by the right riders (off-road experts, not me!) blasting all over the place, too.

I'm not saying the DL will be better than the Yamaha, though (I've had more Yams than any other make I've owned, love them!) but for short-arse me the characteristics (weight, height etc) would make the Veek a better all-round prospect, I think

Actually, I do really fancy a Yam, they do look better-built than the Suzuki in most ways - but that isn't everything to me

Got the new Tenere forum running yet then FR??

Locky · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2014, 15:01:52 »

+1 Gassoon , that rider could ride a ZZR1400 down the same trail , if he dropped the S10 he'd sweat the same as anyone else who had to pick it up ..
I think the S10 is a much better all round bike than the new Veek , better build quality etc etc . But as a off road bike it's much the same as all the big Adv bikes ...

loggamatt · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2014, 15:33:21 »

How often do people really ride these big adventure bikes seriously off road anyway? And I'm no expert, but any bike can handle a farm track/fire trail can't it?

I don't really see big 1-litre adventure bikes as off-road bikes... I see them as a different style of touring bike. When the reviews say "The KTM Adventure or BMW GS are the best off road bikes in class" I think so what? There's no way I'd be spending £15k on a KTM Adventure and then ride some tough off-road trails on it, where I will almost certainly drop it and smash it up. I'd rather buy a £11k Triumph Explorer + a 2nd hand single-cylinder dual-sport bike for £4k if I fancied going off-roading.

skinny5216 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2014, 19:27:05 »

If you were seriously into off roading you would only need something around the 250-450cc mark, anything bigger is going to be to heavy to get back up if dropped, I think the big adventure bikes are good for touring and carrying more of your equipment or shite as some may call it.

Tusker · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2014, 19:28:49 »

and don't forget the mascot

Mr Nick · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2014, 20:47:51 »

I don't think there's such a beastie as the perfect adventure bike as people's ideas of what adventure means are as different as there are bikes. The same lot as FR's clip took the S10 as being a good middle of the road bike. However, it's also easy to thrash the tits off an adventure off road when you get to hand the bits back at the end....

edit: Cheers Martin, I was fixing the link & came back to find you'd already done it.

geekay · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2014, 10:33:38 »

FatRat - is that original picture raceways motorcycles in fleetwood?

How did you find them? - I just bought my S10 from them - a lightly used 'worldcrosser' model.

Keith Cross · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2014, 20:20:43 »

Quote from: "ProfG"

One has a beak while the other does not even have a chin

It doesn't have a chain either

. Quite a good idea really.
Took my old 650 off road once, got stuck as it was too wide for the ruts in the trail. As for comments about rider ability, spot on comment. Nick Saunders went around the road and went on some horrible road that I would not attempt on my Honda CRF250, let alone on a R1 like he did.

Keith C

Juvecu · « **Reply #19 on:** January 11, 2014, 15:19:21 »

That's just because you picked a road that didn't have wide enough ruts