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Offline MartinW

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Too many battery connections
« on: November 10, 2013, 17:50:44 »
I've got too many battery connections now and it's not easy to get the bolts too tighten on the terminals.

So, longer bolt or a secondary bus-bar type arrangement for the additional connections? What's the right way to go, and if it's the latter (which I think it should be) where's a good place to get something useful?
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 18:28:46 »
http://www.versatilemarine.co.uk/index.html
Give the above firm a call and ask for Abby, and ask for one of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Sea-System ... ea+systems

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 18:30:31 »
I'm about to fit one of these with a relay. Someone who really knows what they are doing will be along soon!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151124154036?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 18:42:07 »
Thanks both - I was hoping to avoid putting in an aux-box, but I know you are both right. Will have to go and get on with it.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 19:08:29 »
Some good kit here, which might have a solution to what you need:

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Bike_ ... strom.html

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 19:18:17 »
Got all my stuff from  http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... mepage.php  this was the aux fusebox I used  http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... HAL106.jpg  via a relay .

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 19:22:40 »
Heres a cheaper alternative to the bluesea box...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380485287092? ... 1423.l2649
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 19:24:01 »
Nice one Gassoon - I like that one.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 19:13:56 »
I have a 6 way BlueSea with the Negative bus. If I had to do it again I'd probably buy something that just has an individually fused positive bus and screw the negatives together with a bolt through some ring terminals. Space is at a premium under my seat.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 19:33:26 »
that's exactly what I do. Ring connectors on each earth and a bolt through them. Takes up hardly any room, makes a great connection and saves £20 on the fuse box :grin:

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 19:38:29 »
I was planning to do the ring connector and bolt fix for the grounds, but that's a bit dodgy for the 12V feeds. I reckon I will go with Mr Gassoon's suggestion.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 22:11:38 »
Just to clarify - I only do it for the earths. I use a proper fusebox with a positive bus for the 12v feeds.

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 23:09:40 »
Pics would help the electrically challenged like me...

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 20:38:51 »
OK, ordered the item Gassoon pointed out. Thanks for all the inputs.

Will do a formal review and photo's when it arrives.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 20:47:17 »
Got the new aux fuse box today. It's a bit big! Does fit under the seat and will be pretty future proof when it's fitted though. I'll get some photo's sorted when I fit it.
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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 21:51:47 »
Good luck fitting & thanks in advance. I need to sort out my electrics soon so look forward to see how you get on :thumb:

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2013, 08:20:23 »
Hi mate,

Did you fit the box? Wanting to do the same thing but don't know how it works haha,

Please could some explain exactly what this box does and how to fit it to bike, has anyone got pics too please cos I'm a bit electrically challenged  :shy:

Any help greatly welcomed!!!

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, 13:26:14 »
I have limited knowledge too Josh, but we can get together and bodge it together if you fancy?

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2013, 13:33:10 »
Here is one example of an under seat installation. The earth connection goes from the battery - to the fuse block. The live connection goes from the battery + to a 30A inline fuse on to a relay and then to the live side of the fuse block. The blue trigger wire in the diagram is the small white wire in the picture that goes to a connector which is attached to the brown wire in the sheath that runs by the left side of the under seat tray. Red wires are live and black wires are earth. The small red and black wires from the battery go to a connector which is plugged into a battery tender to keep the battery properly charged when the snow takes over my world for up to four months.



A typical schematic is shown below.

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Re: Too many battery connections
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2013, 14:36:51 »
Josh - I haven't fitted it yet, but will put up some detailed instructions and photo's when I do.

As for connections, Greywolf has already given some great details. The block I have bought has two common positive rails though, each of 6 connections, so one can then be direct to the battery (So Alarms, Optimisers etc) and one can be relay switched for utilities (Heated Grips, GPS etc). The grounds are common.
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