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Offline Juvecu

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2013, 12:49:51 »
Perhaps those are paid for extras that are fitted for the test bikes/photos?
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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2013, 13:03:46 »
They are not in the list of accessories, although that may not be complete yet.

What I'd like to know...

Have they made the engine cases and water pump housing more resistant to corrosion?

Do the engine bars cause vibration at any particular revs?

Will Givi side racks fit?

what is the protection like from the standard and touring screens?

How easy is it to change bulbs, as I'm not that happy with losing the redundancy that you have built in with two H4's?

What is the service interval and how often do the valve clearances need checking?

Is the standard suspension suitable for large porky Europeans rather than small light weight Japanese blokes?
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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2013, 14:30:42 »
The engine looks very much like a development of the old Vee with a slightly larger bore to give it the extra capacity. The primary drive is gear as was the original Vee and chain drive to a jockey wheel which then gear drives the cams. This is a very good system (next best to full gear drives like the VFR750/800) and makes removing the cams to change valve shims much easier than chain only drives. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Whether a slipper clutch and traction control is really needed is a matter of opinion. Interesting to see if they extend the service intervals. If they do it suggests that it could easily have been applied to earlier models.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2013, 14:33:23 »
It's a shame cruise control isn't an option... I know a lot of riders think cruise control is a gimmick, but I do a fair amount of long rides along the motorway as I don't have a car, and I think cruise control would be very nice to have for that sort of riding. Plus I hear it improves fuel economy because it keeps your speed more constant than you can usually do yourself.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2013, 15:24:44 »
Quote from: "frez"
Will Givi side racks fit?

Givi will just get the bike in and make some to fit.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 20:09:54 »
No mention of the service interval.  :violence-smack:  Would be a shite so called adventure tourer if they haven't upped the service intervals. Going to have a good look at the KTM at motorcycle live, could be my next choice, think I'm missing the oooooompff


Had cruise control on one of my bikes and found it very useful  :grin:

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 20:15:15 »
KTM doesn't have cruise control either! Which is even more of an oversight if you ask me as they have a ride by wire throttle, so it would have been easy for them to include it.

KTM would definitely be on my 'big bike' list too if it had cruise control... but because it doesn't, my list at present is the Triumph Explorer (tested but didn't love it... may settle for it anyway due to it being cheap), BMW GS (tried it, loved it, but it's expensive and I'm told unreliable) and Aprilia Caponord (not yet tested).

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2013, 21:29:51 »
Load of tosh about being unreliable (sour grapes if you ask me, people get so hung up on this BMW malarkey) I have owned 5 and all toured abroad with no problems. The bikes are easy to service yourself, good dealer network, My K1200RS SE had cruise control and it was ace, made riding across Europe covering 600 miles in a day almost a piece of cake  lol I've had BMs so looking at the KTM

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2013, 22:01:31 »
Maybe KTM will include cruise control in a future update to the range... you would imagine it wouldn't be hard to do, a bit of new software, add another switch, done. If they did that, the KTM would be very interesting to me too... I've seen a few of them about out on the roads and they certainly have a lot of presence!

Anyway, I'm probably dragging a DL1000 thread off topic now... but, yeah, shame the DL1000 doesn't have CC for me anyway!

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2013, 23:26:48 »
Hands up who will be the first to buy it in diarrhoea brown?  :grin:


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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2013, 07:09:55 »
*Keeps hands down near the floor and makes extra effort to ensure they don't move at all.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2013, 07:32:48 »
I would... just think...
1. The dirt wouldn't show so much.
2. It'll be easy to spot yours at a vstrom meet.
3. If you decide you don't like it, fatrat will buy it.



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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2013, 09:51:41 »
:thumb:

I'm sure FR is planning a workshop extension as we type.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2013, 09:58:48 »
Seen a price of €10000 for Germany quoted on another forum, which I'd guess is the basic price.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2013, 12:33:28 »
That'd be £8500 here.... :)))

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2013, 12:38:34 »
Might have to test ride one next year...

But I hate buying brand new, the depreciation is not worth it over a 2-4000 mile 1yr old bike.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2013, 16:54:36 »
Quote from: "loggamatt"
Hands up who will be the first to buy it in diarrhoea brown?  :grin:
Is that slippery shit colour? I know someone who might :-)

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2013, 22:32:28 »
MCN says it'll be £10k... but I don't believe with any certainty any price I read right now.

They're making a big deal of the fuel economy being the selling point, which made me reconsider again whether the DL1000 should be on my list of possible bikes for a year's time. But after doing some sums, I'm not really sure why people make such a big deal about fuel economy... lets say the DL1000 is about 10mpg better than either a Versys 1000 or something like a Caponord. If you're doing 8000 miles a year, it'll save you approx £200/year.

But the Versys will probably be cheaper, especially to begin with, so it'd probably be a few years before you make up the difference in paying extra for the DL1000 in fuel savings. Plus the Versys will probably have better performance. The Caponord will be a bit more expensive, but I suspect not vastly more, and you'd get a much higher spec for your money. Maybe the extra spec/performance of the Caponord would be worth £200 a year (or, £17/month) extra in fuel.

Maybe I'm missing something here... and my first instinct is to be impressed by mpg figures too, but when I work out what it actually means in pounds and pence I start to wonder why it matter too much.

I don't mean to offend anyone here who goes on to buy a DL1000, because bike purchases are all about personal preference at the end of the day... but I personally think that if fuel economy is the only way that the new DL1000 differentiates itself from the opposition, I'll feel a bit underwhelmed by it. Only if it's also cheaper than all the opposition to purchase (including the Versys) will it start to make sense to me.

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Re: A new 2014 DL1000 article
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2013, 22:35:28 »
MCN say a lot of things... and it's all bollocks!   :haha:



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