Author Topic: Poorly Glee - any suggestions (Read 13155 times)

Firestorm · « **Reply #60 on:** June 27, 2013, 17:26:12 »

Great move Fatbelly. It may be coincidence but........? Lets hope they sort it this time.

Fat Rat · « **Reply #61 on:** June 27, 2013, 18:05:51 »

Juvecu · « **Reply #62 on:** June 27, 2013, 21:57:15 »

If it was removed then it means someone did look at it. Mission accomplished

Andy M · « **Reply #63 on:** June 28, 2013, 12:59:39 »

Quote from: "Juvecu"

If it was removed then it means someone did look at it. Mission accomplished

Wait and see. The alternate reaction is to set the full weight of Suzuki GB to defending Appleyards (big car dealer for them too). If that's what they do then Suzuki will join BMW and Alan Jeffreys on my "Do not shop there" list. I'm already avoiding Appleyards who had plenty of business from me in Leeds but lost any chance of service work when they couldn't even book the bike in at Shipley (lucky escape by the sound of it). Suzuki asked for my comments on that experience. I didn't hold back!

Andy

UK_Vstrom650 · « **Reply #64 on:** June 28, 2013, 22:37:44 »

I'm still hoping this will be resolved by Appleyards. I've spent a lot of money in there over the years and have no reason to disbelieve the manager won't want to help - given they closed their Leeds bike shop they need all the customers they can get. He also resolved the warranty/breakdown issue with Suzuki when he didn't have to.

I'll see what happens next week if/when they come for the bike...

Brockett · « **Reply #65 on:** July 01, 2013, 23:47:39 »

If you have a 'Scottoiler' fitted check the vacuum pipe connection.

UK_Vstrom650 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 02, 2013, 21:33:20 »

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought that but couldn't see it loose and dealer says there's no error codes (assume there would be one if vacuum leak?)

Juvecu · « **Reply #67 on:** July 02, 2013, 22:32:45 »

Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups, or so my good lady says. There won't be an FI error if there is a vacuum leak, it's not nearly that clever

No FI errors only mean the usual sensors that gets checked are working within parameters at the time of the check (unless they have a tool to check history.) It doesn't say some numpty forgot to push a pipe back on somewhere or put the air box on wrong causing an air leak (easy to do that one btw, happened to me before.)

greywolf · « **Reply #68 on:** July 02, 2013, 22:48:11 »

FI errors only come from electrical problems with the fuel injection and ignition systems.

UK_Vstrom650 · « **Reply #69 on:** July 02, 2013, 23:10:38 »

I'll pull the Scottoiler to check that's not the issue then although not been an issue previously. I'd check the air filter but the tank was never removed...

Juvecu · « **Reply #70 on:** July 02, 2013, 23:13:02 »

But you also said they put the panels on wrong, so why would they remove the panels and not the tank? Taking off the panels doesn't really get you in anywhere useful for a proper service unless you also remove the tank.

Brockett · « **Reply #71 on:** July 02, 2013, 23:19:13 »

Semantics and how some folk wriggle.
Did they remove the tank? maybe not
But did they lift it? and therefore did not actually remove it.

UK_Vstrom650 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 02, 2013, 23:29:02 »

Maybe? Can you lift the tank enough to work on the sparkplugs and check/clean air filter on your own? Just thinking whether it would just be easier for a mechanic to remove the tank to do the 7,500 mile service rather than mess about lifting it and working with limited space?

I'll check the pipes are on OK, but am sure the dealership said they checked they were all on right when it was last in. They're collecting it at the end of the week to investigate. The worry for me is the mechanics say they don't notice the issue/think it's normal behaviour.

Juvecu · « **Reply #73 on:** July 02, 2013, 23:49:35 »

You can get at the rear plug by lifting it, but you can't check the air filter that way. At the point where you can lift it you might as well disconnect the fuel pipe, fuel breather pipe an petrol pump wire and get it out of your way rather than making it difficult for your self to get at the rear plug.

Andy M · « **Reply #74 on:** July 03, 2013, 12:25:38 »

Quote from: "greywolf"

FI errors only come from electrical problems with the fuel injection and ignition systems.

It's worse than that, the error codes can only blame electrically detected faults. Something external that caused one of the sensors to behave in an unusual way would be blamed on that sensor. The techs then read the code, see the named component, change it, then the wiring to it, then the ECU.

Used to happen all the time with ABS sensors. The code read "Sensor A value is outside expected limits". This was correct. The owner fitting oversized tyres had shifted what the sensor reported outside what the ECU could work with. The only components you could change to fit in would be the tyre, ABS polewheel or ECU programme. The tyre is the only one available off the shelf. I'm sure leaks and mechanical faults could upset FI sensors such as the flow meter in the same way.

If you do get an FI code my advice is to read the full text and consider what possibilities you can test, don't just start component swapping unless the code does list shorts or open circuits.

Andy

Fatbelly · « **Reply #75 on:** July 03, 2013, 12:43:37 »

Sensors are not so precise either - since my air intake temperature sensor was replaced the weather has become become 1 degree celcius warmer!

Juvecu · « **Reply #76 on:** July 04, 2013, 10:52:39 »

So everyone in Scotland is very grateful that you got that sensor changed then!

Jacko · « **Reply #77 on:** July 04, 2013, 21:20:06 »

I bet there's still snow over The Cairngorms though.

Abercol · « **Reply #78 on:** July 05, 2013, 12:29:35 »

Nope, snow is finally gone.....20 deg today, total heatwave, everyone is moaning that its too hot!!!

Due to the fab warm weather I'm planning a coast to coast run on Sunday: Down to Tyndrum to the Green Welly via Aberfeldy then through Glencoe to Fort William then Aviemore and back over the Cairngorms via Tomintoul. Around 380miles or so.

Route may vary as I'll follow the best of the weather, but it will include a stop at the Green Welly, all else is optional!

Jacko · « **Reply #79 on:** July 05, 2013, 13:08:42 »

I hate you.