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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #120 on: August 07, 2013, 08:52:13 »
Looking good  :thumb:

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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #121 on: August 07, 2013, 08:59:27 »
I like it :)
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #122 on: August 07, 2013, 12:41:20 »
How'd it go from being black to silver? :shrug: Was the black just the base coat?
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #123 on: August 07, 2013, 12:42:47 »
or is it just two different cameras, with one being used in the dark ??
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #124 on: August 07, 2013, 13:15:30 »
First picture was at night, with flash. The second was in daytime, but under a canopy, still with flash. I think google's "enhanced" the pictures too.

The real finish is a nice satin black. I'm not home tonight, but tomorrow I'll get it out properly and get some decent photos :)

EDIT: Been thinking about the first start... what's the best way of making sure that the engine oil's everywhere it should be? The service manual doesn't mention it.
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #125 on: August 07, 2013, 14:01:50 »
Maybe a bit late but there is stuff called assembly lubricant: http://www.camskill.co.uk/m1b539s4964p6 ... be_-_114g_
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #126 on: August 07, 2013, 15:26:39 »
I would certainly prime your oil filter before you crank her over.
I know the plugs will no doubt be in but if not you could put her in gear and turn the engine over by the back wheel once the oil is in.

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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #127 on: August 07, 2013, 15:32:55 »
Plenty of assembly lubricant used, but I'm still twitchy about relying on it :)

Yup, good point, I'll fill the oil filter up to start with. I was considering laying the engine over on it's lhs, opening the clutch cover (again), overfilling with oil, and turning the oil pump by hand until it 'felt' right... I think there's a few ways of checking oil has got to various places too. Once I'm happy, I can close it up, drain the excess oil, close my eyes and press the button :haha:
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #128 on: August 07, 2013, 15:42:14 »
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Close my eyes and press the button
lol  It will be OK, you seem to have double checked everything except the price of walnuts in Cambodia  :)
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #129 on: August 07, 2013, 15:43:54 »
I'm sure it will, but the half-second or so after every oil change while the pump get oil to everywhere it should is long enough! I keep hearing '90 seconds' and 'a few minutes' banded about :shock:

I do have the advantage that it's not strapped to a bike yet, so I can (and could) fill the crankcase completely with oil to make sure :haha:
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #130 on: August 07, 2013, 15:46:38 »
If you're concerned then take the plugs out and turn it over on the starter for a bit.

Once running the oil light should go out within a few seconds, the oil that you used when assembling should last for those few seconds until the pump takes over. Only start worrying if the oil light stays on.

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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #131 on: August 07, 2013, 15:51:32 »
Overfilling won't help any. Just use the amount specified on a rebuild. It's the parts that are force lubricated by the oil pump and oil galleries that can suffer until oil pressure is built up. Those parts are taken care of by the assembly lube applied during the rebuild.
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #132 on: August 07, 2013, 15:55:58 »
I may not need to overfill - my thinking was just to make sure that the suction side of the pump was submerged, then turn the pump to get some oil where it's needed. Once the pump's primed, I believe that there's more than enough oil in there (even at min level) to keep it so.

There's quite a few expensive bits fed by the oil pump... crankshaft, camshafts/tappets (and whatever I've forgotten!)

I'm just paranoid :)
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #133 on: August 07, 2013, 16:08:57 »
Quote from: "MartinW"
Quote from: "mjc506"
Close my eyes and press the button
::):  It will be OK, you seem to have double checked everything except the price of walnuts in Cambodia  :)

Hard to find the price for walnuts in Cambodia..... Cambodian cashews are currently trading at $100 per ton. Hope that helps
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #134 on: August 07, 2013, 16:14:18 »
Thanks Mick, I'll get some on order just in case :neen:
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #135 on: August 07, 2013, 20:22:42 »
If assembly lube was used then I wouldn't worry about it myself. Start it up and just watch that the oil light goes out sharpish.
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #136 on: August 08, 2013, 21:34:57 »
Didn't feel like much progress tonight, just another few coats on the engine. Also looked at both radiators... new ones required I think :bawl: but that can wait until I find a bargain. :)

Still not happy with this photo. but it's better than the others.


One more can tomorrow (hmm, if I get up really early I can do a few coats before work...) then fit it to the bike, book an MOT, cross fingers... :auto-dirtbike:
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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #137 on: August 08, 2013, 22:05:23 »
SV650 oil cooler is the same as the strom, mine is an SV650 one after a large stone put pay to it a while back.
Part number stamped on it is even the same.

cost me about £45 off ebay, fair condition, and had an after market stainless cover.
that reminds me, needs a little coat of paint.

engine is looking good there mate!



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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #138 on: August 08, 2013, 22:24:05 »
Just caught up with this after missing several weeks-worth, and great work there, mjc! Thanks for posting this, and don't be too humble about your skills lol  I for one, know it would be beyond my wit to do this :)
At one point you said "as long as your slow and methodical..."... well, I am just slow :shrug:

But to do this in your garden - well, that's just showing off! lol

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Re: Stuck in gear?
« Reply #139 on: August 08, 2013, 22:31:51 »
I like the colour, not too flashy :thumb:
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