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Offline Halam

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Throttle frozen.
« on: January 21, 2023, 11:00:17 »
Good day Gentlemen,
My first good ride yesterday, haha didn't I have fun with far too much oil from the Scotoiler, this morning my throttle seem to be frozen. 

Heavy frost overnight, the twistgrip moves about a millimetre and the cables twitch so the problem seems to be deep inside. 

The law of St. Sod says that by the time I get the panels and tank off the thing will have sorted itself.  Is there a known bit that I need to attend to?
Cheers,
Halam

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2023, 11:43:12 »
If it will start and tick over it should soon generate enough heat to thaw. Hopefully ...............
Or be a wimp like me and wait for summer :grin:
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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2023, 12:59:57 »
Good idea, it's feed up now, but I should have thought of that.

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2023, 17:27:42 »
I had a similar thing on my commuter 400 as I was riding to work one cold morning, there was actually a little water in the throttle cable that was freezing, so a cable re-lube stopped it happening again

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2023, 22:11:18 »
I thought the cables were teflon lined and should not be oiled.  It's funny, I get just enough movement to raise the revs a little but that's it.

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2023, 22:18:06 »
I thought they were too. You could try squinting WD40 at the throttle body linkages  from the throttle side. I once got free cruise control on my 650 which was because they were sticking/needed lubing. If water/damp has got in there and frozen it could be causing your issue.
That freed it up, and now I add poyying some oil on them whenever I have the tank off.

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2023, 07:02:59 »
I suggest NOT to lube the cables due to the major reason already pointed out. These cable sleaves are teflon lined and thus should not be oiled.  The section where the throttle cable lugs fit into the throttle twist grip are not teflon coated and this can take some lube.
Other than that, I think that the problem could be either dampness frozen in the clearance between the throttle twist grip tube and the handle bar itself or that the throttle body linkage knuckles / swivels may be frozen. If the throttle one freezes / frees up once the bike has idled for a short while, then chances are that something wrt the throttle body was frozen and the engine heat helped sort things out.

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2023, 12:42:06 »
if it's not raining use a hair dryer.
This doesn't last forever, so do it while you can.

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 19:43:16 »
It's OK to lube Teflon cables, just not normally necessary. See this article from Venhills, who know rather a lot about cables 
https://www.venhill.co.uk/news/post/how-to-lubricate-your-motorcycles-cables

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Re: Throttle frozen.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2023, 06:32:27 »
Your attached link made for interesting reading. I'm open to learning something new, as long as it doesn't come at an unnecessay expense at a later date.
I was taught not to lube teflon lined cables, as the lube would attract dirt particals, which in turn could over a period of time (depending on the amount of use) saw through the teflon lining and eventually cause cable damage.  Once the lining is damaged, the solution would then be to replace with new cables.  A lot of unnecessary hassle in my book.