Fitted some fronts to the Vee late last year and have just got back after a weekend at the Dijon Moto Legends event. Lovely to see Freddie Spencer and Steve Baker riding their old works bikes in anger. About 75 miles of torrential rain on the way home and have to report that these pads are appallingly bad in very wet conditions. Dangerous in fact and would not recommend for anyone who ever rides in the wet. Absolutely no braking at all for about 2 seconds after applying the brake. Reminded me of how bad first generation disc brakes were on bikes when they first came out. Great shame as they're OK in the dry. So the ones in my bike will be consigned to bin, best place for them....