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Offline viper

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puncture advice
« on: August 10, 2014, 21:03:07 »
I have a Anakee 2 tyres on my DL1000, I have just had a puncture in the rear tyre which is a nail between the tread Patten. I have been told that you should not repair it, I looked on the Michelin wed site and they also say the should not be repaired but replaced.

Any advice please I don’t realy have to but another one.
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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 21:32:44 »
You have to decide for yourself if you're going to plug it or not because if it all goes wrong no one else is going to take the blame :)

I'm of the opinion that tyre fitters/vendors/manufacturers will always take the safe option of telling you to replace it. Firstly, they can't tell you to plug it if there is any danger to yourself, and secondly, either you or someone else will sue them if something happens.

Personally, since it's only a nail and the hole will be quite small, I'd plug it. This is not me telling you what to do, I'm just telling you what I would do. Incidentally, I just pulled a pop rivet end out of my tyre yesterday, luckily it went in sideways in a big tread block and didn't cause a puncture.
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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 21:36:57 »
I thought Michelin sanctioned two puncture repairs in their tyres if the site was in the central 50% of the tyre and not Z rated?

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 21:54:18 »
Each tyre manufacturer will have differnet values concerning puncture repairs but the general rule with bike tyres is you shouldn't repair punctures in the tread and a max of 3 repairs is acceptable.
I repair tyres all the time and often advise customers of the above but many of them ask if I can still repair..? and on their say so will repair in the tread because people can't justify paying for a new tyre when there current tyre hasn't worn out however, not once have I ever had anyone get back to me saying their tyre has leaked or caused any danger to them.
In your case I would get it repaired only because your bike isn't a superbike capable of silly speeds but in the end its down to you and how you feel about it.
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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 22:10:19 »
It's purely cost,how much tread on tyre if it's a lot repair,if not replace.if it was front replace would be the only answer!

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 22:22:19 »
Quote from: "Timmo"
.if it was front replace would be the only answer!

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 22:27:14 »
Thanks folks I understand what you’re saying its just the thought of throwing away what looks and is a new tyre.  Although Michelin tyres web site does say you can repair it there only stipulation is not to repair between the tread blocks.  
If it was just me riding repair, but as the wife comes out with me it’s a new tyre

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 07:12:50 »
Without wishing to teach anyone to 'suck eggs' there is a world of difference between a 'plug' and a 'repair'.

Plugs are temporary fixes to get you home or to a garage where as a repair with a proper 'patch type, plug thing' hot-vulcanised inside the tyre, is permanent.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 18:25:31 »
That's the right thing to do and for the right reason otherwise it will be on your mind every trip and you don't need the distraction. But I think the wife should pay.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 18:49:35 »
Quote from: "Timmo"
That's the right thing to do and for the right reason otherwise it will be on your mind every trip and you don't need the distraction. But I think the wife should pay.


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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 22:28:08 »
That made the Wife laugh as she slapped the back of my head.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2014, 03:14:20 »
Quote from: "Retraite"
Without wishing to teach anyone to 'suck eggs' there is a world of difference between a 'plug' and a 'repair'.

Plugs are temporary fixes to get you home or to a garage where as a repair with a proper 'patch type, plug thing' hot-vulcanised inside the tyre, is permanent.


Do they still 'hot vulcanise' now, with all the advances on adhesives?

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 06:46:10 »
Not on any punctures I've had repaired.

I've done trackdays and tours of Scotland in winter, when you need a tyre to perform at it's best, on puncture repaired tyres, in my opinion it's a non-issue.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 08:01:24 »
My mistake, I should have said 'hot vulcanising' or cold 'patch & plug' repair - oops.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2014, 14:00:14 »
Same thing happend to me recently- slow puncture in the rear tyre.

 I got a vulcanised patch  at a car tyre dealers for £14.

 They could only work on loose wheels, so I took the wheel out and refitted it afterwards.

 They didn't have paddock stands etc.

As I had a nail in mine, it would have meant increasing the hole to 6mm to fit a plug.

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puncture advice
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2014, 18:49:57 »
I've looked into buying a 6mm tungsten reamer, a box of mushrooms and a tin of vulcanising rubber solution. My puncture repairs cost me a fiver, for the amount I get it wouldn't be cost effective to buy in.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2014, 23:27:28 »
Mitas sport force tyres massive recall in MCN today's, if you have don't use them.

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Re: puncture advice
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 05:32:43 »
In my experience the proper mushroom type plug/patch repair done from inside the tyre is very very good. Slightly off topic but I have been known (just the once ) to do a complete (road) race  day (5 sprint races) on a rear tyre with a plug/patch repair.  :eusa-whistle:  Would I do it again.......er........
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