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Offline Yoyo

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Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« on: April 03, 2014, 14:59:53 »
Well I spent a few hours getting the fairing and tank off to sort out the air leak that's been causing my rough running  and the throttle bodies are firmly in place but there was no mounting holes to lock wire them on I guess that must only be on the 650. I'm not sure what to do next,  I'm thinking dyno run in Bridgend to try and sort the fuelling out, if that doesn't do it then it's going to have to go. It's fine when you are pushing on but riding it slowly is a nightmare and when I'm out with the Mrs she rides slowly with a big grin and I'm in a strop due to the sore wrist from constantly working the clutch :(

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 15:03:22 »
Have you considered getting rid of the missus?

Problem solved and no wrist injury bar having to be a stand in for a while :grin:

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2014, 15:31:10 »
It may depend on the year but the thread at http://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php/topic,2990.0.html is about the 1000. If the engine is set up well, it shouldn't happen. Cleaning the mating surfaces with alcohol and tightening the clamps was mentioned a couple of times.
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Offline Yoyo

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2014, 16:18:44 »
Prof I'd considered that but she makes great cakes!
Cheers GW,  I thought I'd read enough posts to know what should be going on, the boot on the rear cylinder is on firmly and the front looks fine too but I couldn't get to the boot to try and move it, I can't believe a bike this big can have so little room in there! The motor has never been set up so that has to be the next step. It's a 2006 with just under 10k on the clock, it suffers with chronic clutch chudder which also could be a factor.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2014, 16:43:49 »
You should definitely keep your mating surfaces clean.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2014, 18:31:31 »
Yoyo - I seem to remmember you have a scottoiler on your Vee?? Anything to do with the vacuum setup on that? Split  pipe, or dislodged a cap? If you've still got the tank off have a check of your air filter, and inside the box. Also tighten up those TB boots just in case, even if they look OK.
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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2014, 18:39:43 »
what sort of slow speed are you talking about, I have issues with my k8 at 10-15 mph when trying to keep it to that, I tried a dyno but didn't get anywhere so my next thing will be a TRE. they are available on ebay but I havnt got the spare dosh atm, so if you do try 1 let me know how you get on


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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2014, 19:26:00 »
Yeah that's about the pace of it, constantly having to slip the clutch, I had to filter for 3 or miles from a local coffee haunt but wasn't able to thank a single driver that moved over as I couldn't let go of the clutch!

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Re: Gutted there's nothing wrong
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2014, 19:53:18 »
Yoyo,

just had the same problem with my bike as well, running rough and backfiring at slow to mid range speed,took it to crew for Suzuki to look at and they said it was due to a damaged valve                                           exhaust seal , the throttle bodies being loose and fitting an aftermarket air filter,
also had the tank cleaned and a new fuel filter fitted.They then ran the dyno test and did a bit of re-mapping. Now runs sweet as a nut, hope this helps in any way.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2014, 20:20:08 »
Hi,
I own a K6 1000 and when I bought it had the very same problems, I tried all sorts and everything was as it should be which I couldn't understand..? . I tried different air filters , silencers , gadgets like TRE's with zero success.  :shrug:

The problem was cured partly after I added a PCIII and a generick map from powercommander but I still had some running issues whiched forced me to opt for a custom dyno setup which finally cleared all issues and she now runs sweet as. The only downside is it cost a few quid, 200 to be exact but when you add the cost of silencers and air filters it all mounts up but In my opinion its well worth the money. My K6 Vee has 95bhp at the back wheel and a torque curve to die for.

If you can afford it this upgrade will change your bike and selling will be last thing on your mind.. :thumb:
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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2014, 20:31:24 »
Get the throttle bodfies balanced and send the clutch basket to Sharealike.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2014, 20:49:45 »
Thanks all,  getting the clutch done is on the cards but it's not cheap and if I'm honest I'm kicking myself for not getting it done over the winter.

I was planning on a dyno run and set up but is there any point without having a power commander fitted?

The tank is back on but I check all the boots were on tight, Gassoon I hadn't thought of the vacuum hose but I've checked it now and all seems fine.

I'd planned on spending some money on new textile for riding off road but I think I'll put it to better use sorting the Strom out first.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2014, 20:58:36 »
A dyno tuner with a Yosh or Teka box can rewrite the stock fuel map. You'll need a copy of the changes made to ever return to stock condition. An external box like a Power Commander that stays on the bike can be removed to return to stock settings.
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Offline wal750

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2014, 21:02:52 »
If you fancy a PC 111 let me know as I have one for a Vee that I'd be willing to sell. Smoothed out the 3.5k flat spot beautifully, mine was so annoying I considered selling the bike.

Vee now gone hence the availability
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Offline Yoyo

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2014, 21:37:23 »
Cheers Wal, I'll bare it in mind, I'll try the tuner with their box first to see what that does, I know of a few  KTM riders that have several maps that they swap around with their PC3's so it could be an option.

Good shout with noting the original numbers Greywolf, if  I can get it sorted for £50 with just some dyno time that'll give me some money towards the clutch mod.

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2014, 21:57:15 »
Quote from: "wal750"
If you fancy a PC 111 let me know as I have one for a Vee that I'd be willing to sell. Smoothed out the 3.5k flat spot beautifully, mine was so annoying I considered selling the bike.

Vee now gone hence the availability

I would be interested in Pc 111 if you're selling it at a reasonable price.

Offline wal750

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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2014, 21:22:31 »
Power Commander now for sale
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Re: Gutted, there's nothing wrong
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2014, 21:59:21 »
Sent you a PM about the Pc not sure if u got it as I'm using me mobile.