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Offline Dan The Man

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Odd ABS Light - Glee
« on: August 24, 2013, 09:40:23 »
Morning all,

Only just noticed this but since I've hit 17k on the bike the ABS light intermittently comes on while riding, turning the bike off and back on again and setting off clears it but then it'll come back online.

ABS seems to be working as had a rough few days thanks to the weather but I've not had ABS before so I figure its the bike trying to tell me something....


Checked and cleaned all the fuses etc but I'm useless at diagnosing faults with systems :(

Don't suppose anyone else has noticed anything like this?


If the first response is Dealer, don't worry I'm way ahead of you as the rear is looking a little thin in the center (damn commuting) so I'm looking to replace the tyre soon as well
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Offline Andy M

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Re: Odd ABS Light - Glee
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 10:47:14 »
The light only tells you that the system isn't happy and has probably shut down all or part of the system. With the light on you need to assume no ABS function and a reversion to full non-ABS braking. It might turn off the front circuit just as the wheel goes into deep slip. You'll only know for sure when picking gravel out of your face.

An intermittent fault is usually one of two things, a sensor whose air gap varies (seen as impossibly varying speed by the ECU) or a bad electrical connection telling it a sensor or modulator is no longer connected. The fastest and easiest way to find out which is to put the bike in diagnostic mode and see what the flash code tells you.

Do not let the grease monkeys start parts swapping. If they can't get an answer from their PC get them buzzing out the loom. I spent 15 years working on ABS and for every ECU or modulator accepted under warranty there were ten sensors and a thousand chopped wires or dodgy connectors.

If you want to check an ABS sensor (it's just a loop of wire with an induced current) you can get a fair bit of info with a multi meter. Pull the ECU plug (work from the back if you can to avoid pushing pins out) and find the in and out for each sensor. They should have a resistance (15 Ohms is typical) and no connection on either pin to ground. Set the meter to AC (yes Alternating Current, not DC,  the sine wave is the tooth count that tells it what the wheel is doing) and spin the wheel. At 30 rpm the sensor should make a couple of volts and a nice steady reading. Open circuits sensors are kaput, ones that make zero or wildly fluctuating voltages are probably at the wrong air gap or facing damaged polewheels or dodgy bearings.

Voltage fluctuations on the supply (bad regulator or battery) will cause an intermittent shut down. Car ABS gets unhappy below 9V or above 18. The Bavarian B*****ds though turn off at 11.9 and 14, It all makes work for the working man to do.

Andy

Offline greywolf

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Re: Odd ABS Light - Glee
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 16:07:56 »
Out of range voltages and physical problems around the sensors are the usual causes of the ABS light coming on. Checking connections and eyeballing the sensors and perforated disks are good first steps. One rider even found debris from a disintegrating wheel bearing sticking to a sensor. The sensors basically consist of a permanent magnet and a coil so will attract steel bits. Another found the ring packed with mud. A few had failing batteries or charging systems. More than a few had loose battery connections.

Suzuki's ABS system is independent of the ECM/ECU. I wonder if the manual differs between module and unit in different countries. Based on reports, low voltage from the main electrical system is more likely to be the cause of a problem but the connections between sensors and the ABS module can be the cause.
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Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s