12v socket

[wilkstrom]

Hi, the 12v socket on 2019 650 has never worked. The handbook doesn’t specify which fuse it runs off, but I would assume the 3 amp Psource.
BeforeI go dabbling(still under warranty) can anyone confirm please.

[user650]

Yes it is a 3amp fuse 

[DJ600]

Your assumption is correct. It's the one and only 3 amp fuse called Psource.

[nuovaic]

I now carry a tiny air compressor, plugged it in to check the tyres the other day and blew that fuse when I switched it on. Good job it was in the garage at the time and not in the middle of nowhere Never thought to check the wattage, presumed it could handle it

[Domenico]

You're right, those tiny air compressors usually require 6/7 amps or more. I had to buyt a 10 A power supply to use it with the garage 220AC because the 5 A unit I owned was not enough.

[nuovaic]

It works fine in the car, which must have a 10 amp fuse on the aux line then?
Wonder why its so small amp on the bike?
I wouldn't want to permanently change the fuse on the bike for a 10amp, but I guess it would be fine as a temporary solution if stuck.

[Rusty Nuts]

  The wires to the socket on the bike won't take the higher load. That's what the fuse is for.

[Rixington43]

Cars are designed with much higher load capable wiring to allow you to use a cigarette lighter since apparently holding red hot burning things is still less distracting than your phone or a Mars bar  ;)
I have a lighter socket direct onto the battery for emergencies since most devices are fused for their draw anyway. Does mean seat off of course but it's not for regular use.

[Mr Nick]

Can't recall the last car I owned that actually had a lighter that went in the socket: likewise an ashtray. Probably one from back in the 90's.

Worth checking the wire spec before direct connecting or upping the fuse as manufacturers aren't guilty of being overly generous with capacity over & above what's stated these days. The wiring that was on the USB socket I took off the other week was very fine & wouldn't handle much in the way of current, hence it's in the bin. Luckily, the accessory terminals & DIN socket are both 10A on the KTM so would handle a pump; pity there's no space anywhere on her to store one...

[Ianmc]

   Buy a couple of small crocodile clips from Ebay,cut thr plug off and fit the two crocodile clips.You have to remove the seat to access the compressor, so its no big deal to clip it straight to the battery.

[nuovaic]

Thanks blokes, think I'll do what Ian suggests

[SimonW]

I found it was cheaper to buy a cigarette lighter socket with croc clips attached, like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-cigarette-lighter-socket-6-lead-crocodile-clips-ESP400/254343559929?hash=item3b380ebaf9:g:b34AAOSwSlBY4ks6

No need to chop the pump lead then, and flexibility in the future if you ever need to power anything else temporarily (like a mate's pump if yours breaks etc.).

[Rixington43]

If you by any chance have an optimate charging lead onto your battery then they do (an albeit pricier) waterproof lighter socket that will allow a 10A draw.

[Ianmc]

   Good spot Simon,I had one of these with my original compressor that is in the car, didn’t realise that you could buy them separately.

[Barbel Mick]

Because we need something to charge the intercoms overnight when we're touring I fitted a (live all the time) 12 volt socket under the seat into which I plug a twin USB adapter. The adapter is plugged in all the time with a 5 amp fuse because that gets used the most.
The 5 amp fuse is changed for a 10 amp if/when I use the air pump. That 10 amp fuse is taped to the pump.
I can use the USB to charge phones, camera batteries etc as we travel too.

[Gert]

Reply #6 of this thread contains extremely important safety info. Do take note of this advice!!