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Offline STORMY

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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2020, 01:07:53 »
So back to square 1, that corrosive old fluid is stuck right in the ABS module slowly chomping it’s way through it’s delicate insides.
It’s absolutely insane to think people are actually advocating pulling your front brake so hard the ABS kicks in on a less than stable surface  :icon_exclaim:
Back brake is bad enough, there must be something somewhere in the regular services that sorts this problem out, or do they want to sell lots of replacement ABS modules at £1500 plus a pop........hmmmm



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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2020, 07:50:56 »
How does one know whether your mechanic / workshop, who serviced the brakes on your V-Strom, actually activate the ABS pump during the brake fluid replacement. The reason for my post was to help make the members, who do their own DIY service, aware of a possible method of circulating the brake fluid through the ABS pump. From the same site that I quoted from, there are many reports of ABS pump failures. Granted the majority of the failures where related to the L2 Glee (2012 DL650), but there where a few other models listed, from the year 2012 on. The newer ABS to that of the K7 - L1 Wee. Bottom line the ABS pump needs to be activated from time to time, or it may let you down when you need it most.

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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2020, 08:18:58 »
ABS pumps are a problem waiting to arrise when a bike gets into its teens.

Bypassing an ABS pump is often the customers preferred choice because a replacement pump and the labour costs are expensive. 
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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2020, 08:19:41 »
Is there a way to jury-rig a jumper lead to cycle the pump?

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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2020, 08:36:07 »
Probably, I've personally never looked into it.

Actually, that's a good question rusty .. I know a real good bike auto electricain, he's an absolute genius. I might ask him . :thumb:
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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2020, 09:21:27 »
Gert you’re advice and comments are certainly welcomed by myself, and it might well prove the only effective way in overcoming this problem  :shrug:
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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2020, 12:47:52 »
I do wonder if it's as much people not changing hoses and it's them degrading that cause the issue/blockage... I wonder if any of those with failed ABS units have opened them up to see what the issue was  :shrug:

I did see a post on Stromtrooper where someone had made an ABS trigger device

https://www.stromtrooper.com/threads/I-made-an-abs-triggering-flushing-device.427711/#post-5439379

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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2020, 18:53:40 »
The bloke in the vid who’s built an ABS triggering kit has seemingly solved the problem, what a brilliant device that’s exactly what we need :thumb:
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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2020, 19:24:21 »
Good find, UK_Vstrom650.
I had wondered what type of signal was sent to the pump, whether it was simple voltage or a code of some sort. Not a straightforward job, but interesting.

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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2020, 19:46:29 »
My super tenere has the electronically linked brakes. Part of the bleed process is similar to the dealer mode on the strom. There is a diagnostic port that you link two wires, pull the lever and press the brake pedal then switch on the ignition. The unit then cycles the abs pump. Maybe the new strom has a similar feature for the new abs system?  :shrug:
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Re: Apologies another brake bleed Q
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2020, 17:21:20 »
Took a while for me to get around to this but I found out the following:
According to Hazelemere Suzuki it isn’t a regular feature of the service regime, standard replacement of fluid and bleed through is their procedure.
However when I pressed him on the ABS unit and its replacement cost, he did say we can trigger it by hooking the bike up to a machine (I think he used the abbreviation SDS to describe the machine), probably talks to the bike through that thing under the seat (forgotten the name of it).
I was quoted £50 which to me seems worth it, but it’s a bit of knock back from a home maintenance standpoint. My bike was one of the first ABS models so when it goes in for an MOT I’ll ask them do it for me.
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