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cameleon chain oiler
« on: March 16, 2017, 16:42:56 »
Hi Chaps, I've never had a chain oiler but can see the benefit so I am looking to buy one, can't remember my name half the time these days  :old: so looking for an automatic one. I have seen a few suggestions on here but none for the Cameleon one so any thoughts would be much appreciated.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cameleon-Chain-Oiler-System-lubricator/dp/B00JI6W7WG/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 18:47:51 »
Initial thought........


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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 19:33:48 »
If you go for it then keep us posted with a review and pictures.
An MCN journo I spoke with told me he doesn't oil his chain. Instead he has new chain and sprockets every year or so.
As for me I have a "PD mini" oiler.
This doesn't last forever, so do it while you can.

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 19:40:54 »
I made a simple primer bulb "push button" oiler for my mates VFR800.
Been on there 2 years (and 21,000 miles) and he says the chain & sprockets still look like new.

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 20:05:59 »
I use Tutoro Automatic chain oiler  :grin:

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 20:26:56 »
Thanks for the replies. It is quite pricey but comparable to the Scott, PD and Tutoro. I do like the tutoro for it's easy install but this has a pretty light and is easy to order from amazon (I am lazy), and the more expensive £130 version is fit and forget. Was looking at making one but I would want it to be automatic and I can't find a 12v valve anywhere.

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2017, 23:18:56 »
Tutoro do an automatic one that does not require power.
It is also fit and forget, until it needs filling again.

https://www.tutorochainoiler.com/products/tutoro-auto-automatic-motorcycle-chain-oiler-standard-kit

But that one is still £70....

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 00:08:20 »
I was looking at the £89 & £99 Tutoro but finally decided on the £130 Cameleon Plus as it self adjusts for everything, added to the fact that I will hopefully have it for a long time so it should more than pay for itself. Should arrive next week so will post some pics once it's fitted.


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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 13:11:46 »
Looking forward to hearing what you think of it as I was toying with the idea of a Scottoiler with lube tube for about the same price.  Any idea what the capacity of the cameleon is I.e. how often does it need refilling?

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2017, 14:04:24 »
Struggling finding the capacity but I think the Webbikeworld review says it lasts a long time, they claim 250ml is good for around 12,000 miles. Hopefully I will know more when it arrives. http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/cameleon-motorcycle-chain-oiler/review.htm

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2017, 14:16:22 »

I just bought a Loobman chain oiler. Haven't fitted it yet, but cheap enough at £20.  :)
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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2017, 23:24:40 »
Cameleon arrived this afternoon, 2 days early. Hopefully I can fit it this weekend after I've done the wife's brakes on her corsa and checked my daughters car over for it's mot.

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2017, 12:42:15 »
Well it's done, took about 5 hours to make, paint and fit all the brackets and connections. Could have done it a lot quicker if I had used the cable ties but I'd rather take the time to do it properly.

Need to do a few tweaks, lower the tube closer to the chain to stop it dripping on the wheel. Maybe cut the oil reservoir tube down and fit a bottle.




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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2017, 12:50:50 »
You may as well have just made the whole chain oiler yourself. :grin:
Nah, the electronic feed pump is a nice touch I suppose.

I don't think you'll ever get 100% effective oil delivery where it is positioned now as the air there will be extremely turbulent. I would just stuff the end of a small cable tie up that feed pipe and then rest it against either side of the rear sprocket, even better do 2 cable tie ends and make it a dual sided feed. That way there is no point at which the oil droplet is going to be airborne.

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2017, 13:00:54 »
I've just made up a pretty elaborate one for my SuperDuke.
It's a pump dispensed one, with delay bleed tube for gradual oil delivery.
It then branches into two, one going to the inner side of the front sprocket. This gets the inside O-ring and also feeds oil under the central roller. This worked fine but I noticed that the outer O-ring looked much dryer so felt the need to add the additional feed tube.
The additional one is just a simple feed tube over the top of the outside O-ring as this will splash when it hits the chain thus lubing the outside Oring as well as providing a general all over coating to the chain.
I had to put a cable tie end in this pipe as well, even though it's not used, just to maintain the feed balance as without it all the oil was flowing down this tube and missing the first one.

I like making chain oilers btw, can you tell.... :icon_wink:



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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2017, 15:54:31 »
Thanks for the tips chaps, I only finished the install at 10pm last night so still under test.

The instructions say to position it 1 inch away from the chain but I much prefer to have it drip on the sprocket, unfortunately there is a metal rod inside the tube and the oil seeps down through a gap in between. I will have to come up with some other fiendish plan like another tube on the outside with the cable ties in there (or something similar).

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Re: cameleon chain oiler
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2017, 14:58:53 »
Lowered the tube a bit and it seems to have done the trick. Just need to give it a good clean and see how it goes.