Competition for the DL1000?

[Oop North John]

If Yamaha get the specifications and price right, then I suspect this will be serious competition for the latest DL1000:

http://canadamotoguide.com/2014/08/13/y ... -of-fz-09/

[kissofdeath]

hmmm may be interesting

[TLPower]

It was always going to happen, quickly followed by a Glee rival based on the MT 07. Price will be right too.

Nice find.

[Jacko]

Not sure about price, Yamaha have a habit of pitching very high initially.

[Oop North John]

Not sure about price, Yamaha have a habit of pitching very high initially.

Not that Suzuki ever, ever do that!  

The MT-07 is priced keenly, so keenly, that the SFV650 has had another price adjustment.

[Brockett]

Asphalt roads only. The exhaust headers looks vulnerable without a bash plate,is there room under there ? Headlight housing looks awkward and is that windscreen upside down?  The rear sub frame was not designed to carry weight and I suspect it'll only be allowed small side and top boxes. Hmmm bars that wide and little frontal weather protection are not good for a fast / long ride  IMHO it's another bike from the style department.

[Jacko]

Not sure about price, Yamaha have a habit of pitching very high initially.

Not that Suzuki ever, ever do that!  

The MT-07 is priced keenly, so keenly, that the SFV650 has had another price adjustment.

Yes, the current triple line up was developed, it seems, to take on the budget middleweight market. Higher end Yams, however, have more recently been priced quite high, I'm looking at the cross plane R1 (big price jump from 10k to 13k) and the big Tenere (lost around 4k of its original rrp). That's not to say that they're not generally worth the premium over Suzukis as they are of a better quality build. Not sure about the new budget MT range though.

[geekay]

IMo - it needs to be 'relatively' expensive - cos it needs the higher quality fittings and suspension as found on something like the super ten - or at least the same / better as the MT09 - it can't be the budget stuff found on MT07 (and even the MT09 looks decidedly 'budget' in some areas)

the MT09 engine is an absolute peach! - if you haven't ridden one - go do it and for the price of the MT09 its a bargain. an MT09 engined / framed bike with plush longer travel suspension, integrated luggage mounts, 17" wheels and some goodies like power sockets, adjustable screen etc would be an excellent bike in my opinion.

it wouldn't suit you with an off-road fetish, but as an adventure styled tourer (ala the DL1000) - it would take some beating. all IMO of course!

[frez]

It clearly has no off-road pretensions, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, if it was it would knock sales of the S10, it's a TDM replacement. It will be interesting to see what they do with the 700, as I'd expect that to be coming in as a replacement for the Tenere and direct competition to the glee.

[geekay]

Having ridden the MT-09 I'd have to say that Yamaha would need to significantly upgrade the suspension to get anywhere close to the '14 Vstrom.

I don't know if the Oz spec is different to the UK spec, but I found both front and rear to be crap, especially the front. When I tried some hard cornering it felt like it was tying itself in knots. I had no such feelings when I test rode the Vstrom.

than the DL1000? or the 650?

certainly the MT09 was better suspended than my memory of the 650 - I haven't ridden a thou, but the DL1000 is a MUCH more expensive bike than the MT09.

But if this new '09 ADV' bike was pitched at the 9-10k (GBP) range with quality suspension, quality built, integrated luggage mounts (and luggage either in or well priced) I can see me putting a deposit down.

I loved the engine on the MT09 I rode - made me grin like an idiot. It might have been the absurdly loud Akrapovic that was on it though :-)

My overall feeling with the MT09 was that it could be bought very cheaply, added a few parts (the akra is a must) and add some ohlins components - shock at rear, spring & oil kit up front - and still have a cheap, new bike which would keep up with many sports bikes on the road.

[Juvecu]

I've only heard good things about the Yamaha 3 cylinder engines. 3 cylinder engines are a bit of a niche for Triumph at the moment and I think this is more directly competition for Triumph than it is for Suzuki. For an on road bike I'd consider swapping the Wee for a this "touring FZ-09/MT-09" based bike rather than an S10.