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Offline Seigi

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ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« on: December 29, 2013, 16:19:15 »
So,

Was a good day so decided to spray my bike with ACF 50 and I think I may have got some on tyre. I was spraying the rear swingarm, opposite to chain/sprocket side, but not near the axle and it suddenly hit me "Seigi, you need to cover the fecking wheels you moron", I think I may have got some on the wheel, there was small spots of oily looking things (Could've been muck as I sprayed the bike with cold water prior), I went around the wheel with a towel scrubbing the spots until they were gone.

If I did get ACF 50 on the tyre, what's the best thing to do? Ride like a nun for 100 miles or so until it's completely gone or something else?

I 'may' have also got some on brakes, I rotated wheel and tested brakes but it seemed alright, I guess I'll find out when I go for a ride and don't stop.  :haha:

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2013, 16:24:38 »
if its spots you should still have plenty grip from the tyres, likewise brakes.. just give them a try when you don't need them instead of waiting until you do  :thumb:

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 16:29:47 »
What Tusker said .... Drag the brakes for a little bit and you will soon see whether they work OK. Sounds like you have done all you can with the tyres. This weather is hardly "pegs down" anyway.

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 16:39:21 »
Don't panic. Small amounts of ACF50 on tyres can be scrubbed out by wiping the excess then, whilst riding, treat the tyre like a new one for a few miles until you're sure the grips back. ACF50 will soon burn off.
Likewise brakes. Small amounts can be dealt with by gentle application of the brakes, on & off, until you're happy they're binding OK.

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 09:01:48 »
I got ACF-50 on my tyre the first time I did my own ACF-50ing (have been allyearbikering instead recently) and lived to tell the tale :)

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 09:55:17 »
Try to cover that spot with a lot of baby powder, leave it for one hour, then just wipe off or aspirate with vacum cleaner. That's the technique we used when I worked as a mechanic. We used it on brake pads, brake shoes, brake discs and drums, whenever any kind of grease found its way where it shouldn't. If amount is big, just repeat the process.
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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 10:24:01 »
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Try to cover that spot with a lot of baby powder, leave it for one hour, then just wipe off.. .

Nice tip, bosnjo!  :thumb:
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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2013, 11:21:38 »
We've used baby powder on every brakes service, even though no oil had been spilled on any part. For example, new disks and pads, no oil spill, we'd cover each disk with powder and deliver the vehicle that way to the customer, without wiping of the powder off. That way we'd make sure braking was immediate and good, and powder would come off by itself just after few miles.
But, that was 20 years ago, back in days when garage would work much slower, just to make sure vehicle was 100% good after leaving the service. We were under strict control of the one old mechanic... you know, the kind of bloke almost walking arround with a whip... The job had to be done perfectly. Then other times came and our way of doing service was dying. Customers started to look for other places, cheaper and quicker. Our boss didn't want to change, he said he loved what he's chosen to do for living and the garage will keep on providing excellent service for a fair price. I left the shop, took some more education and completely changed my profession, and old bloke watched his garage going out of business. Few years later, he died. Sad story.
Personaly, I hate to take any of my vehicles to the dealer for scheduled servicing, but sometimes I have to because of warranty period. At this moment, I own Glee on warranty and Ford Focus on warranty, as well. I know what they do and how they follow the "checklist" for scheduled service and I have to pay for it. But, that's life.
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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2013, 12:26:21 »
I do this every time bud don't worry too much about it. This is not the best advice but I get bike straight and upright and just let her spin if she wants.

I am used to this though, years of riding Grasstrack and speedway so as I said its not the best advice for everyone. Mitch on here has followed me a few times when I've done this and it still makes him chuckle  :)

Surprisingly doesn't make that much difference to the tyres, but does to the brakes, as someone said earlier dragging the rear (and front if poss) really helps and should feel back to normal soon  :thumb:
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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2013, 12:35:05 »
Thanks for all the advice/reassurance. My gut instinct was to take it easy at first and try to asses if it's slipping. Judging by where I was spraying it, I.e. on the swingarm, the majority of it probably went on the side wall which won't affect grip at all.

The ACF 50 did leave a big pool of film around where I'd been spraying, so that was fun trying to clean up. I initially tried to spray it towards the drain, but the water essentially just ran over it and the film/oil barely moved so I used a huge sheet to trying to dab as much up as I could, I bet people thought I was trying to dry the floor of water, I'll probably get a knock on the door from people from the asylum soon.

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2013, 14:22:20 »
At least the sheet won't rust.....

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2013, 16:02:42 »
Quote from: "Seigi"
The ACF 50 did leave a big pool of film around where I'd been spraying, so that was fun trying to clean up. I initially tried to spray it towards the drain, but the water essentially just ran over it and the film/oil barely moved so I used a huge sheet to trying to dab as much up as I could, I bet people thought I was trying to dry the floor of water, I'll probably get a knock on the door from people from the asylum soon.

Hahaha... I also did this too!  :)   Good to hear I'm not the only one. What made it worse for me is that I was ACF-50ing on a trip down to Cornwall to visit my parents while the bike was parked on their driveway. Lets just say, my mum did not have an amused look on her face as I reassured her that I was sure it would wash off, only to see the water just run off the surface of it. My argument that I had at least waterproofed her driveway didn't help either.

In the end, I used some heavy duty oil remover that my dad managed to find in a hardware shop somewhere and did a lot of scrubbing. Lesson learnt the hard way!

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2013, 22:08:06 »
Honestly, the only reason I cleaned it up instead of just letting it dissipate naturally is because it was right outside my garage door (didn't fancy slipping on it when I forget) but also because there's a couple of bikes further up from me (My garage faces a lane) and don't fancy them slipping on it when they come down.

I'll know in future to lay a big sheet down underneath though!

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2013, 13:22:33 »
Agree with Stibbs but then I would as I am the AllYearBiker rep for the Island.
I like the advice on the use of baby powder - will file that away for future use if needed - useful info and just what this site is all about. :ty:
With ACF50 - before I got the 'knowledge', I used to absolutely slap it on my Vee. Apart from being flipping expensive doing it that way, I have learned that the best way to apply ACF50 yourself is spray onto a microfiber cloth and just wipe over - that is ALL you need to do the job, as long as you are careful, you can in this way even get at the centre of your brake  disc rotas.
Course that method won't get into all the nooks and crannies on a bike but giving your bike a quick wipe over, provided the bike is clean and you don't go over dirt or grease in doing this, that will be better than nowt.
The only way to completely protect the bike with ACF50 is to use a compressor and spray gun, set on fine mist and spray the whole bike (except the plastics) that way - easier and cheaper for you to give your  local AYB Operator a call and get him/her to do it for you .. believe me I was sceptical when I first came across the AYB process and saw a demo, but the AYB system does work.
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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2013, 13:34:56 »
There wasn't an all year biker local to me otherwise I would have just let them do it all as I have heard and seen good reviews from them, besides I'd already purchased the can of ACF 50 to do my previous bike (which instead I decided to just garage for the winter). Maybe I'll try and find a local one next year if one pops up.

I just went out to inspect the bike, and noticed that there seems to be a greasy film all over the metal parts of the bike, and the exhaust can had what looked like clumps of oil (I wiped off with microfibre cloth, not sure if that was right or not) on it. I also wiped where my legs/boots would sit with a microfibre cloth as I can't imagine getting it on boots/clothing will do it any favours.

But yeah, next time I'll try either All Year Biker or the paint brush method.

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Re: ACF 50 on tyre...maybe
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 11:02:13 »
Hello Seigi,
Ref the 'clumps/lumps' - What you are seeing is too much ACF50 which will attract dirt and crud and will thus do the opposite of what you want.

Just wipe  it all down and you will be fine. Your exhaust will be fine too, so will all your chrome and stainless steel, even mat plastics will be OK and will benefit, but shiny/polished/waxed plastics will be just 'horrible' if any gets on it and you need to get that off - use the talc method - I tried it out yesterday and it works. :lala:  

When you start up your bike - run it for about 5 mins or take it for a short spin - it will 'smoke' quite a bit but that will be the excess ACF50 'burning off' and is nowt to worry about. Best do that outside or at least with shed/garage door open. Watch your brakes for a couple of miles or so - just be gentle and hope no idiot leaps out on you to make you do an emergency stop in that time and you will be fine.

AYB Operators will usually travel up to 30 miles to get to you though, or you can call in when out for a run.

All the Best to You and All for 2014
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