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V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 17:57:50

Title: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 17:57:50
Chain has 21.000 km on it. At the 12.000 km service, the Suzuki bloke told me that the chain was way too tight and he loosened it.

Now... tomorrow I have to catch a boat at 8:30 am and I find the chain having this much slack.

Apparently the bloke has overtightened the wheel bolt too much for me to loosen it (same Suzuki bloke as the oil cap)

is the chain to dangerous to drive 500 km with... should I cancel the boat trip?
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: endintears on April 12, 2022, 18:05:59
In my opinion yes it's too slack and potentially dangerous.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: hill100 on April 12, 2022, 18:09:56
Its far too slack. Adjust it before going on your trip.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 18:11:17
A remark... it is without any load on it...
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: kwackboy on April 12, 2022, 18:12:04
Too slack , not much adjustment remaining by the look of it either..
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: endintears on April 12, 2022, 18:18:46
The rear sprocket looks very worn as well.
My advice would be to reschedule your trip to enable you to have a new chain and sprockets fitted before setting  off.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on April 12, 2022, 18:19:46
Would it be impolite to ask how frequently the chain was checked between the 12000 km service and 9000 km later, the night before a ferry trip and 500 km jaunt ? :whistle:
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Fat Rat on April 12, 2022, 18:31:25
I wouldn't ride that over 30MPH  :shock:
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Caffs on April 12, 2022, 18:44:07
Looks dangerous to me, and definitely looks like a new chain and sprocket IMHO
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: mr_diver on April 12, 2022, 18:54:07
Yep, new chain and sprockets time.

Chains need checking at regular intervals = Max 600miles and more frequently if running in dusty or wet conditions.

The chances are the service tech used the correct tools to torque the axle nut correctly.
The basic tool in the oem tool kit is simply not up to the job of loosening the nut if it's torqued correctly.

I carry a massive spanner under the seat to undo the axle nut as I've snapped the oem tool as it's made of Chineseium.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: The Doctor 46 on April 12, 2022, 19:02:54
If the boat trip is important and you don't want to cancel, why don't you use that last little bit of adjustment to tighten it up and oil it too. There must be some adjustment if the last person to adjust it loosened it.

Then take it easy to the boat and when you disembark, find a motorbike garage to sort it out for you. Even if there is enough adjustment to tighten it up, I wouldn't ride at normal speeds or for any distance with that chain. If it comes off at any speed it could kill you, wreck your bike or at least ruin the holiday.

Stating the obvious, I would spend a few quid on your bike and have it serviced properly. It would be a good idea to have another biker show you how to look after it between services too. I don't mean to sound patronizing but you did ask for advise.

My Dad would have kicked my Donkey if I had gone to ride that.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 19:07:49
I have only been lubing the chain since 12.000 km service. To be honest... I didn't imagine that the chain could wear "this fast". Now I know

Also the the lock bolt on the right side distance screw was loose, so the rear wheel has apparently been slightly off centered );

I have to reschedule the boat trip ):
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 19:17:46
Ah no, I will not drive to the ferry.... to far, and also my gf will be on the back. Life is too precious for that to risk

I will go find a repair shop close by and see if they can fix it
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: endintears on April 12, 2022, 19:36:44
Good decision
The front sprocket has probably hardly got any teeth left on it :shock:
Maybe send us a picture of it when you get it replaced :)
On the plus side the bike should feel much nicer to ride when the works has been done :thumb:
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 12, 2022, 19:43:35
But of course the chain can be tightened more. Look at the picture attached.

Is the rear sprocket really that bad?
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Brockett on April 12, 2022, 20:11:09
I would always change all three, both sprockets and the chain.
Waste of time putting a new chain on old sprockets as the chain will quickly wear out.
Given how much trouble it is to change any of the three items you might as well get all three done together.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: mr_diver on April 12, 2022, 20:42:56
Yeah what brocket said.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: endintears on April 12, 2022, 20:44:23
The chain and rear sprocket may be servicable for a few hundred miles more IF there's enough adjustment to get the correct tension but the front sprocket wears the fastest.
Good luck at the repair shop :fix:
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: vstroman on April 12, 2022, 22:53:10
Find a new mechanic or learn to do the work yourself, that chain is dangerous being that slack.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: bonne on April 13, 2022, 13:44:06
Chain tightened and mechanic says it is safe.

Bolt was way way too tight.

Ferry rebooked... everything OK. Thanks for helping
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on April 13, 2022, 13:58:14
 :thumb:
Glad you're safe & sorted. Enjoy your trip ( & keep an eye on the chain)
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: porter on April 13, 2022, 18:02:50
When you get back invest in a new chain and both sprockets. Also, and don't take this the wrong way, as it doesn't look like you look after the chain too well buy an automatic chain oiler, ie Scotoiler etc and let it look after the chain.
Title: Re: Please... a quick answer: is this chain slack dangerous to drive with?
Post by: Mep on April 14, 2022, 17:22:29
Enjoy your trip.
I have a Scottoiler for sale If you are intetested.
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=40729.0