Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: renevdb on November 22, 2020, 07:15:57
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Hi
I’m trying to fix this issue with a 2007 DL650.
The engine won't start... :angry-banghead:
Display mentions CHEC when powering up.
The previous owner sold it for following reason :
He forgot his keys (including alarm remote control) in his pants when washing ( this what he told to the dealer...)
Dealer removed the OEM alarm and wire loom, but since then it does not start. That is when I bought it...
I have the impression that the engine is OK, but that a wiring issue prevents the communication with the ECU or so?
The fuel pump does nothing when I turn the key, although it’s not broken ( tested with 12 volt and it pumps!)
I installed a new battery but of course this does not solve anything.
The OEM alarm was plugged in under the passenger saddle, with 3 plugs and without modification of the wires...
Tried to reinstall the wire loom and Oem alarm: no change.
Question: could it be that the alarm wasn’t correctly removed?
Did not find any mention of the OEM alarm in the wiring diagram.
Any help is welcome!
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In all honesty I have never heard of anyone selling a bike because he washed his keys.
Or a dealer buying such a bike and selling it on in that state.
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It has almost 95.000 km, its rusty and worn.
And of course the price was low.
But it should still be rideable, as it appears complete and without accident?
Otherwise I need to sell it for parts.
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Rusty and worn perfectly describes the first person to reply.
Do the keys have the transponder fitted to disarm the immobiliser?
Did the bike come with a V5? :whistle:
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Edit.
No V5 you are in Brussels. :shy:
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I have checked the remote and the batteries are 2.7 volt instead of 3...
What is a V5?
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A V5 is a UK Registration Document and as you are in Brussels then that doesn't matter.
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I'd say someone has made a bad job of removing the alarm.
I maybe wrong here but I don't recall seeing a plug and play alarm on any Suzuki ..? The only manufacturers I know that has does this are BMW and Triumph.
Obviously it depends which make/model alarm it is but if it's a datatool it should have been hard wired into the loom with no plugs.
If it's another model alarm which has a plug and play facility and it's been unplugged the circuit isn't complete, hence why you are unable to start the bike.
I could be wrong but that's my take on it ..
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I’ll make some pictures
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CHEC on display = one of these.....
kill switch, side stand switch, ignition fuse, low voltage/no voltage from ECM to display
There was another thread last week regarding this and the cause was a 'tracker' wired to the fuel pump.
See here............. and check the two links in post #26
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=39009.0
Here is the OP's reply, post #3, (but in the wrong thread) when he got it sorted..........
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=39020.msg400255#msg400255
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In attachment the alarm (http://IMG_7017.jpg)
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The bike is in bad shape...
(http://IMG_6999.jpeg)
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Some more pictures:
(http://IMG_7002.jpeg)
I tried to figure out where the alarm was initially based on the connectors. 2 of the connectors found their initial spot.
(http://IMG_7004.jpeg)
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Didn't someone have a similar problem with a short jumper cable on the alarm plug ?
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Was it this one Paul? ..............
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=31295.msg310537#msg310537
post #10
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:ty: The engine starts ! :dance:
Thank all of you for your help
Apparently the original cable has provision for an optional alarm.
You have to remove a connector cap to click in the alarm - and of course put it back when removing the alarm :smirk:
This type of connector seems to do the trick
(http://sv650-alarm-plug.jpg)
@Moderator: please remove the post if it is not apropriate to document removing an alarm :topic_closed:
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:thumb:
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Great news, well done :thumb:
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The key fob denotes META systems.
They used to make plug and play alarm systems for various bikes.
You're better off without it. Meta and datatool alaram have a habit of being absolutely perfect until they fail and You're stuck in the middle of nowhere with a bike that didn't start.
I'd personally walk away from a bike with an alarm fitted. Luckily your bike has a plug and play one.
My XJ600n came with an alarm but it was one of the cheap £20 ones that never work when they should and just piss off your neighbours.
Luckily it easy to remove in 2 min as the fitter only took a live and switched feed and never wired it in to anything else. :shrug:
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My last bike had a datatool system, it made the bike super secure by ensuring the battery was first every time I wanted to ride it 😂.
Glad you got it sorted so easily, never knew what the plugs under the tail were for.
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Checked the wiring diagram and nothing obvious was shown...