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V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: nikolas on February 21, 2013, 02:04:20

Title: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on February 21, 2013, 02:04:20
hi blokes,

I m not sure if this is the correct section to post this up, but for Android owners 2.2 onwards I have an app through Google Play calles V-Strom Rescue En (En stands for English)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... omrescueen (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nickpapanik.v_stromrescueen)

it is short of a "survival" guide app for DL650 and DL1000 owners, and also features fuel consumption log :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Sven on February 21, 2013, 09:02:31
That looks really useful, mate.  :thumb:
But I have an iPhone, don't suppose you'll be doing it for apple devices?
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: mjc506 on February 21, 2013, 09:17:02
Looks good :)

Why do you need so many permissions though? I can understand internet access, but why the need for location and phone status/ID?
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: ProfG on February 21, 2013, 09:22:12
Quote from: "mjc506"

Why do you need so many permissions though? I can understand internet access, but why the need for location and phone status/ID?

Why do you think? Most of these 'free' apps 'steal' your data for spamming, marketing or other nefarious purposes. Not that I am saying this one does but loads of free apps do. Where do you think all these spam texts and calls for PPI, loans and other so called offers come from?
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: mjc506 on February 21, 2013, 09:29:19
I'm hoping this one is just a case of the developer leaving all the permissions set to default (the android sdk defaults to asking for those permissions)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: shedchief on February 21, 2013, 09:33:35
Excellent app!
Thank you.
:D
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on February 21, 2013, 12:06:17
Quote from: "mjc506"
Looks good :)

Why do you need so many permissions though? I can understand internet access, but why the need for location and phone status/ID?
Quote from: "ProfG"
Why do you think? Most of these 'free' apps 'steal' your data for spamming, marketing or other nefarious purposes. Not that I am saying this one does but loads of free apps do. Where do you think all these spam texts and calls for PPI, loans and other so called offers come from?

Quote from: "mjc506"
I'm hoping this one is just a case of the developer leaving all the permissions set to default (the android sdk defaults to asking for those permissions)

thank you for your response blokes..just to clear some things..
I can understand second thoughts about permissions..they were reduced from initially available to the basic ones, but perhaps I may have missed one or two..so I will review them again to make sure..

just for the location, I have included as necessary permission, because I was thinking of other features that app could include and perhaps location could be usefull..so I wanted it ot be included and not to be a "surprise" to a future release..

all of the data you enter in the app (fuel consumption, service mileage) is held on your phone..I have no access over it, and I don't intend to do so :)

about the app itself, it started as a personal challenge, because I had made sth more complex on my MSc thesis, and I was thinking how could this experience be usefull for sth that I everyday use..and I ended up with this app..also due to currently being unemployed, I regarded to be an asset, to have proven work published somewhere..and google play was a good way, since user feedback is also a way to see if someone's work is appreciated or not :)

about being free, I guess hardly someone would spend I.e. even 1GBP for an app that he might not be sure that it was necessary or not..so I thought to release it for free and I was thinking to add just a paypal button for a donation just to cover at least the fees to google for publishing..however, I think this is not allowed..so the other alternative way is to just launch an identical app some time in the future at a minimum cost, just in case someone would like to donate

about ios version, Apple's fees for developers are way greater than Google's, so providing an app through App Store, probably won't be done for now..I m working though on making an iOS version to be downloaded and installed directly on device but I guess this will require jailbreaked device?

I m open to any feedback, regarding things you like, things you don't like and whatever you would think it would make it even better :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: ProfG on February 21, 2013, 12:20:50
The App is actually quite good. Maybe you could make one with location or route finder and charge for that. You could call this one the 'Lite' version  :thumb:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: mjc506 on February 21, 2013, 13:13:29
In that case, bravo :) I've downloaded it for the handy list of FI errors alone, and the servicing tab is a nice touch.

Like ProfG mentioned, perhaps a 'find/call your nearest dealer' option in a future paid app would be something to consider :)

All in all: excellent app, well done :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on February 21, 2013, 14:34:59
one thing that I m considering currently, is to include choice between km and miles, as in many countries like in UK there is difference in measurement units..
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Ubique on February 22, 2013, 10:31:03
Sounds good but when the apple one out :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Gassoon on February 22, 2013, 18:05:43
Sounds good nikolas, thank you, but I have no Android or Apple, my phone based on Antikythera device, do you have extra cogs for it? :grin:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Locky on February 22, 2013, 18:11:23
Just downloaded , very handy  :thumb:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: ProfG on February 22, 2013, 18:14:02
It already has an update lol
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on February 22, 2013, 21:26:19
Quote from: "nikolas"
one thing that I m considering currently, is to include choice between km and miles, as in many countries like in UK there is difference in measurement units..

Miles would be useful as save me having to work it out...! :)

Useful app, thanks!
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Andy M on February 23, 2013, 10:32:58
Very good :thumb:

Thanks for posting, this app is now there alongside mapdroyd as part of my scheme to one day only have to carry one electronic box and no bits of paper (think it'll be a while before that happens though).

Andy
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Gassoon on February 23, 2013, 10:42:56
Sigh...okay, I'm going to have to get an android phone, aren't I? Bloody progress!
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on February 24, 2013, 23:46:40
regarding the update, just to mention that there was on since november that it was last updated, and at the same time as mentioning it over here, I was also rebuilding the core.. :)

now I m working on making it possible to choose between miles / gallons or km / litres, but it will need some time, because some things seem to be trickier than initiallly estimated.. :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on March 02, 2013, 17:14:41
Quote from: "UK_Vstrom650"
Quote from: "nikolas"
one thing that I m considering currently, is to include choice between km and miles, as in many countries like in UK there is difference in measurement units..

Miles would be useful as save me having to work it out...! :)

useful app, thanks!

you should be getting an update soon..
in this update you can use the menu button in order to enter settings tab and choose between kilometers / litres and miles / gallons

if anything weird comes up, let me know.. :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Jeff999 on March 02, 2013, 17:29:40
Will it be available for iOS phones at any point? :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on March 02, 2013, 17:39:12
probably this is the next thing I ll be up to..
the main drawback is that I don't have an ios device in order to check the application's functinallity 100% but I d like to hope that I won't meet any great difficulties.. :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Jeff999 on March 02, 2013, 17:51:34
Thanks for that. I'm changing phones inMay so perhaps if the Galaxy S4 is out then I can install it on that..
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: shedchief on March 03, 2013, 12:38:54
Quote from: "nikolas"
... should be getting an update soon...

Many thanks, Nikolas. This app is going to be very useful and being able to deal with 'mpg' is a great improvement. :grin:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: ProfG on March 03, 2013, 13:08:07
Just downloaded it again and it's in Greek with no language options  :shrug:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on March 03, 2013, 14:28:52
Quote from: "ProfG"
Just downloaded it again and it's in Greek with no language options  :shrug:

the english app is the "V-Strom Rescue En"
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: sirkitchalott on March 03, 2013, 20:42:43
This looks really good, hope I never have to use the section for fault finding.

I  contacted the developer prior to the "miles/litres" option, the reply was polite and quick... Most impressed!
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Tagmanone on March 04, 2013, 19:54:40
Nice app thanks  :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on March 05, 2013, 00:03:45
you are welcome :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Locky on March 05, 2013, 17:59:45
Great now it has miles . Well done for sorting it  :thumb:
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: jimbo8098 on March 06, 2013, 22:49:24
This looks like a great little app! I especially like the fact that you have the fault codes right there on the main screen , very handy! If you have a website , you should stick a donate button there. If you don't , you could add something like a google maps integration which I am sure will be very much appreciated! Since you are using GPS features already , you could use the GPS to determine your location then show you on google maps where the nearest service station and petrol stations are. People will certainly pay for that!

Very nice app with a lot of potential!
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on March 08, 2013, 11:46:04
thank you very much for the suggestions :)
as for the donation option I m glad to hear that people would be interesting in having one along with the app :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on September 01, 2013, 01:50:21
well it took me a while to spot solution on a bug regarding tab changing on newer devices but seems to have been solved now.. :)

you ll probably get an update notification in a few hours.. :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Strombone on September 01, 2013, 08:42:03
Hi,
Great app :)
Not sure if this has been mentioned but here is a suggestion which I hope is helpful.

 Would it be possible to separate the KM/Litre Miles/Gallon?
In the UK, we tend to enter litres at the petrol station but our bikes odometers are in miles. So at a fill up, it would be good to enter the litres used against the miles covered for the trip. It seems that the mileage needs to be converted to KMs at the moment unless I am mistaken.
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on September 01, 2013, 12:01:20
so, don't you use mpg as a measurement unit?

you use miler per litre? or litres/60miles 100miles?

the mpg feature was added just because in many countries they uses miles as measurement unit and I thought that happened with gallons as well instead of litres..

one common unit is litres/100km and over some uk forums (mg-rover related) I had seen that they used mpg
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Strombone on September 01, 2013, 12:15:44
Hi,

I have another app where I enter the following when I refuel:

Quantity in Litres
Price in Pence
Distance in miles
it then calculates the MPG (in miles) and the refuel cost.

The point is that the UK petrol stations dispense fuel in litres. However, UK vehicles record distance in miles. So, and this might just be because I am an old fart, people usually calculate their fuel consumption and efficiency in miles per gallon

Example:
Qty: 16.14 Litres
Price: 179.1 Pence per Litre
Trip Distance: 179.1 MILES
Refuel cost (calculated by app and spot on) £22.23
Calculated MPG: 50.45MPG

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on September 01, 2013, 12:51:34
aha, I see, to probably the app makes the conversion from litres to gallons and gives back the mpg figure..

it could be done :)
I ll add to the todo list for the next release :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: Strombone on September 01, 2013, 19:49:38
That's it!

Good luck with developing the App :)
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: jimbo8098 on January 05, 2015, 20:52:14
I just want to say, I've (thankfully) only had to use the app twice but it's always got just the right information.

Great work!
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: msharpe on January 07, 2015, 17:29:08
Not sure how possible it is as this is way above my techno knowledge but could you in some way incorporate the location permissions in some way to allow a secondary user EG: Wife, partner etc. to find out where you are if you enable/allow it. I'm thinking from a safety point of view as such you don't turn up somewhere around the time you said you would no one has heard off you etc.
Also could it in someway be used to track your routes and give avg speed etc. much like endomondo does for me when I am out walking or on the push bike.
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on January 07, 2015, 20:31:00
Good god I use the bike to get away from the other half, I don't want her knowing exactly where I am & my 'short' rides usually mean I'll be back when you see me  :neen:

I do see what you're saying from a safety point of view though
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on June 14, 2016, 21:25:17
hi blokes,
a follow up, v-strom rescue has been replaced by Strom m8, is the new app name

it is available for Android Devices over Google Play
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nickpapanik.strommate&hl=en

and foriOS devices over AppStore
https://itunes.apple.com/gr/app/strom-m8/id1116405716?mt=8

the iOS version is enhanced with the extra feature for user to log maintainance information.

the is a demo video over here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENecJXQkNQo
Title: Re: V-Strom Rescue App
Post by: nikolas on June 14, 2016, 21:27:32
Future plans include choice of motorcycle as long as it is v-strom :)

Also I need to update error codes, but I haven't found list with the newer ones yet :(